Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

[noxibox]

Proving free will is easy. If you have a circumstance where you are forced to do one thing but for whatever reason choose to do the opposite you have exercised free will.

No that would not prove the existence of free will. It would only prove that either we have free will or the illusion of free will. We would not be able to distinguish one from the other. Even the fact that I treat the world as though I and others can make choices could be nothing more than a predetermined action over which I have no actual control. How would I be able to tell?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Fair enough, I could not resist that one given how he was behaving.

How was I behaving when asking ponderer about examples from the book and reasons he thinks Dawkins is talking crap?

 

[rambo919]

That goes both ways....

If I actually behave in a manner suggesting I am here merely to instigate stupid fights purely for the sake of fighting.... you have my permission to mock me accordingly

 

[rambo919]

How was I behaving when asking ponderer about examples from the book and reasons he thinks Dawkins is talking crap?

It's not what you say, it's how you say it..... you know ur capable of better behaviour.

But I agree it was a low blow, sorry.

 

[rambo919]

BS, most religions rely on the indoctrination of children starting at a very young age, whereas most atheist are by choice later in adulthood when they become wiser.

Seriously? You don't see the bias there? You don't see how someone with that kind of attitude will perhaps push their children strongly to also believe it?

 

[ToxicBunny]

It's not what you say, it's how you say it..... you know ur capable of better behaviour.

How did I say it then?
I asked a simple question that should be easy to answer

 

[TysonRoux]

Seriously? You don't see the bias there? You don't see how someone with that kind of attitude will perhaps push their children strongly to also believe it?

There's no "seriously" here , it's all crazy laughable BS with your posts, .......and please don't interpret that to mean I want you to stop, ...quite the opposite, I don't want you to stop entertaining us.

 

[rambo919]

How did I say it then?
I asked a simple question that should be easy to answer

I apologise, going back now it seems I read it too fast and assumed you were trolling. My bad.

 

[rambo919]

There's no "seriously" here , it's all crazy laughable BS with your posts, .......and please don't interpret that to mean I want you to stop, ...quite the opposite, I don't want you to stop entertaining us.

What kind, genorous things to say, your mother must be proud with your levelheadedness and serious truth-seeking tendencies.

 

[noxibox]

So? Get an atheist symbol and place it everywhere you please. Plenty of pantagrams all over the place already can I complain about them?

If you like, but they have no relationship to atheism. They seem to be popular with Wiccans, who are theists typically, and perhaps with Satanists, who are also theists.

Except atheism and critical thinking are two seperate things.... yes some children get taught atheism.

More typically in my experience they're simply not taught to be theists, which makes them automatically atheists. Everyone's born an atheist.

Why assume there are only two options? Many people admit they don't know so can't choose either yes or no.

There isn't really a middle ground between believing in gods and lacking a belief in gods. The limits of knowledge and knowing are a separate matter. Hence agnostic atheists, and theists for that matter. It's a bit of pain that some people who wanted to pretend to be fence sitters decided to try to co-opt the word agnostic.

 

[rambo919]

For what it matters, dude seems in terrible health at this point. He's the one in denim.

 

[TysonRoux]

What kind, genorous things to say, your mother must be proud with your levelheadedness and serious truth-seeking tendencies.

Your mother must be totally shocked and bewildered by your BS, or did she have a hand in creating this?

 

[rambo919]

If you like, but they have no relationship to atheism. They seem to be popular with Wiccans, who are theists typically, and perhaps with Satanists, who are also theists.

Did not mean to say they did, I meant it as an example of other religions plastering their symbols all over the place that no one seems to give 2 s-t's about. Hinduism is another, no one cares.

More typically in my experience they're simply not taught to be theists, which makes them automatically atheists. Everyone's born an atheist.

Debatable

There isn't really a middle ground between believing in gods and lacking a belief in gods. The limits of knowledge and knowing are a separate matter. Hence agnostic atheists, and theists for that matter. It's a bit of pain that some people who wanted to pretend to be fence sitters decided to try to co-opt the word agnostic.

Nope, if you realize you cannot conclusively prove something either way the only honest conclusion is "I have no clue". Atheism is a choice not something you are born with.

 

[Splinter]

If I actually behave in a manner suggesting I am here merely to instigate stupid fights purely for the sake of fighting.... you have my permission to mock me accordingly

One might deem this to be another petty comment...

 

[daveza]

Muslims flee to Europe and try impose their religion everyone goes apeshyte.

Christians try impose their religion and those who won't accept are labelled as enemies of christianity.

How about everyone believe in whatever they want, fairies, gods, messiahs, crystals, just don't interfere with the lives of those who choose to believe otherwise.

How hard is that.

 

[rambo919]

Your mother must be totally shocked and bewildered by your BS.

Awww cute now me making "your mother" jokes to each other.... wanna be BFF's?

 

[buka001]

So religion makes you atheist?

It made me an atheist.

 

[rambo919]

Muslims flee to Europe and try impose their religion everyone goes apeshyte.

Christians try impose their religion and those who won't accept are labelled as enemies of christianity.

How about everyone believe in whatever they want, fairies, gods, messiahs, crystals, just don't interfere with the lives of those who choose to believe otherwise.

How hard is that.

How is it "Imposing" to publically support a religion in it's relatively historical area?

 

[Ponderer]

BS, most religions rely on the indoctrination of children starting at a very young age, whereas most atheist are by choice later in adulthood when they become wiser.

What about those Atheists that become wiser and then believe that GOD exists?

 

[TysonRoux]