Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

Splinter

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I'm forced to pay tax, thats the point

Shame man. Guess you also forced to to drive your Opel Monza on roads that taxes paid for.


But if you don't want to pay taxes, why don't you go to a country where you don't have to. So, where would that be?
 

saturnz

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Shame man. Guess you also forced to to drive your Opel Monza on roads that taxes paid for.


But if you don't want to pay taxes, why don't you go to a country where you don't have to. So, where would that be?

because I'm not free to move, I have to apply for permission to do so from governments...

don't you know how that works?
 

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Serious question, how old are you? This is childish logic.
I'm starting to wonder myself.

Can/has it be proved that free will does not exist?
Can/has it be proved that everything is exactly predetermined?
No and no.

It also cannot and has not been proved that free will does exist and everything isn't predetermined.

If you have free will you can choose to believe free will exists or that everything is predetermined. If you don't have free will it is predetermined whether you believe free will exists or that everything is predetermined.

You see the mistake is in thinking that if you had no free will you'd feel like you had no choice. You feel forced. You'd know that you hadn't made a decision. But that's wrong. You'd still experience the choices, still experience considering the options and making a choice. But that would all be predetermined. How would you tell the difference?
 

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Which by the majority not voting is the ANC?

no, the majority would be those who did not vote

you are mixing up ideas,

total population 60m

around 25m are registered to vote, around 11m voted for the ANC

so show me how you get a majority using those numbers
 

Splinter

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because I'm not free to move, I have to apply for permission to do so from governments...

don't you know how that works?

Shame man. You seem really burdened by the restrictions of a democratic government.

Thank god you aren't religious - your head would explode if you had to adhere to all their restrictions.

Still, lets say you got permission. What country would you go to, to not pay taxes?
 

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You have to be pretty ignorant if you think Dawkins' criticisms of classical theism and it's proofs are substantial. But... it is always fun to watch someone try and defend him.
 

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You have to be pretty ignorant if you think Dawkins' criticisms of classical theism and it's proofs are substantial. But... it is always fun to watch someone try and defend him.

Ooh, look. Another Dawkins hater :)

My gosh, this dude really, really irks you religious folks hey.

I'm going to buy the man a Bells. A whole frikken bottle of it.
 

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Ooh, look. Another Dawkins hater :)

My gosh, this dude really, really irks you religious folks hey.

I'm going to buy the man a Bells. A whole frikken bottle of it.
Hey, I'll buy Dawkins a Bells. Without him atheists might still try to prance around thinking they are smarter than everybody else. Thanks to him that ship has sailed :laugh:.
 

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Hey, I'll buy Dawkins a Bells. Without him atheists might still try to prance around thinking they are smarter than everybody else. Thanks to him that ship has sailed :laugh:.
OOOF a low-blow from the left-field by Techne. Wonderfully done, as usual :)
 

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Shame man. You seem really burdened by the restrictions of a democratic government.

Thank god you aren't religious - your head would explode if you had to adhere to all their restrictions.

Still, lets say you got permission. What country would you go to, to not pay taxes?

are you suggesting religions and democracy are both forms of governance?

are you now conflating the two?
 

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Shame man. Guess you also forced to to drive your Opel Monza on roads that taxes paid for.


But if you don't want to pay taxes, why don't you go to a country where you don't have to. So, where would that be?
LOL, No more illegal street racing against TwoFeetLess in his BMW.
 

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no, the majority would be those who did not vote

you are mixing up ideas,

total population 60m

around 25m are registered to vote, around 11m voted for the ANC

so show me how you get a majority using those numbers
If you're eligible to vote but decide against it, you're technically contributing favourably to the "majority" party. Seat allocation is based on number of valid ballots as a variable and not total population or registered voters of the country.

Of course total number of votes to registered voter would determine voter apathy (Separate issue).
 

saturnz

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If you're eligible to vote but decide against it, you're technically contributing favourably to the "majority" party. Seat allocation is based on number of valid ballots as a variable and not total population or registered voters of the country.

Of course total number of votes to registered voter would determine voter apathy (Separate issue).

refer to post 557
 

Splinter

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are you suggesting religions and democracy are both forms of governance?

are you now conflating the two?

My parrot can repeat words as well.

But this is an extremely interesting comment from you, seeing as you have continuously denied that a country dominated by religion, does not equate to the religion governing the country.

Another epic oopsie from you :)
 
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