Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

MidnightWizard

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Well he's a spiteful snake of some kind with obvious anger issues towards God......
As was Karl Marx and so many of the other "philosophers" who gave us Communism.
One just needs to read their ramblings to understand this --
 

MEIOT

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So it's better to throw a childish fit and blame your parent rather than yourself for the trouble YOU cause?
Well, your bible does say we are made in his image - if we extrapolate from that we shouldn't at all be surprised that the world is a cesspool of violence, suffering, destruction, hate and bigotry. After all, your lord god is the epitome of those qualities.
So, then I guess we can indeed blame the so-called 'parent'. If one believes in the god delusion of course.

Each to their own though. That being said, education is key. One should always strive for evidence-based truths.

IMO
 

rambo919

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Well, your bible does say we are made in his image - if we extrapolate from that we shouldn't at all be surprised that the world is a cesspool of violence, suffering, destruction, hate and bigotry. After all, your lord god is the epitome of those qualities.
So, then I guess we can indeed blame the so-called 'parent'. If one believes in the god delusion of course.

Each to their own though. That being said, education is key. One should always strive for evidence-based truths.

IMO
Such a tempered logical person you are, no whiff of convenient blame shifting.
 

Spizz

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You seem to be under the impression that Dawkins is a philosopher.
He is not.
He is a (pathetic) hateful Atheist.

You stated that you enjoyed Dawkins's ventures in Philosophy.
I enjoyed how David Berlinski absolutely shredded Dawkins, and showed him up for the "poepol" he is.

Not a single though of your own hey? Why would I think you'd respond otherwise.

Now call me old Mr Cynical, but I would put my house and my car on a bet that you haven't read the God Delusion or any of his books for that matter. There is just nothing for you to gain, learn or look at anything differently in any book or conversation from anyone who has a different view from you.
 

MidnightWizard

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Because religion would never make it easy to kill people. How about we just admit people are ****ed up regardless of what they believe and will kill in whatever name justifies their bs.

As for consciousness etc.: We don't know.
Or is admitting ignorance not permissible?
Who was it that killed the most people ?

How Genghis Khan cooled the planet

Mongol Invasion in 1200 Altered Carbon Dioxide Levels

WHAT was their belief system ?
( I will leave that one for you to work out )

Perhaps "climate-change" is not due to mans machines but man himself
Perhaps over-population is the REAL driving force ?
Perhaps if three-quarters of the human population was removed the Earth would cool ?
Perhaps those with an IQ under 90 might constitute that -- three-quarters ?

Admitting ignorance IS permissible -- not doing anything about ignorance is NOT permissible !
 

MEIOT

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Such a tempered logical person you are, no whiff of convenient blame shifting.
Well, let's put that into perspective now that you brought up logic.

Is it illogical for me to not believe that a desert dweller walked on water and raised the dead and cured incurable diseases? Is it illogical for me to not believe that he came back to life a few days after he died?
And clearly my logical fails me when I roll my eyes about the story of piling on an animal of each sex across the entire animal kingdom on to a boat to set sail above the rising floods?
I must certainly have left my logic at the door when I can't grasp this clear and apparent fact that god was a talking burning bush and that woman turned to salt and the whale swallowed that one dude and that dude survived and went on to lead a merry life.

No blame-shifting needed when one can actually think logically sans the shackles of indoctrination I reckon.
Hell, that's just me I guess and clearly I don't expect the rest of humanity to believe as I do.
 

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Dawkins is a good example of what is wrong with the world today and therein lies the tragic hypocrisy; trying to convert everyone else to his or her own world view.
 

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You trying to defend Dawkins?
Dawkins is a "poepol".
He's a bit antagonistic and in attack mode, which annoys me, but I still like him.

At least straight to the point, unlike religious holy books an other fairy tales.
 

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Lol this poor guy. Got molested around the time he became an atheist and probably had an absent father now he is just a bitter old anti-religious bigot.

Philosophy and logic aren't for him. After the God Delusion it became pretty clear he should've just kept going with his area of expertise... I.e. not logic and philosophy, but hey he still bamboozles the easily bamboozled :laugh:
 

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Well, let's put that into perspective now that you brought up logic.

Is it illogical for me to not believe that a desert dweller walked on water and raised the dead and cured incurable diseases? Is it illogical for me to not believe that he came back to life a few days after he died?
And clearly my logical fails me when I roll my eyes about the story of piling on an animal of each sex across the entire animal kingdom on to a boat to set sail above the rising floods?
I must certainly have left my logic at the door when I can't grasp this clear and apparent fact that god was a talking burning bush and that woman turned to salt and the whale swallowed that one dude and that dude survived and went on to lead a merry life.

No blame-shifting needed when one can actually think logically sans the shackles of indoctrination I reckon.
Hell, that's just me I guess and clearly I don't expect the rest of humanity to believe as I do.
If He was not who He claimed He was then yes it's illogical to believe that.... if He however was who He claimed to be it would be illogical to not believe it.

You seem to be under the wrong impression that one pair of each species was taken aboard, the text says each kind. Each kind could easily have brought fourth the many current species.... in fact under insects it still happens all the time, you could even argue that each breed of dog is a new sub-species were it not for the fact that most breeds are synthetic. Also who says the animals were all mature?

Every "illogical" part of the bible has logical explanations. If was actually probably not a whale but a large fish, there are many types of fish in the deepest oceans we will never see because our engines scare them away. Chemical expulsions could easily literally turn someone into salt if shock freezes them in place for long enough.

You are either ignorant of under indoctrination yourself, it's rather obvious. Or ur trolling which also explains these soft balls.
 

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Lol this poor guy. Got molested around the time he became an atheist and probably had an absent father now he is just a bitter old anti-religious bigot.

Philosophy and logic aren't for him. After the God Delusion it became pretty clear he should've just kept going with his area of expertise... I.e. not logic and philosophy, but hey he still bamboozles the easily bamboozled :laugh:
Are you Christian?
 

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Well, let's put that into perspective now that you brought up logic.

Is it illogical for me to not believe that a desert dweller walked on water and raised the dead and cured incurable diseases? Is it illogical for me to not believe that he came back to life a few days after he died?
And clearly my logical fails me when I roll my eyes about the story of piling on an animal of each sex across the entire animal kingdom on to a boat to set sail above the rising floods?
I must certainly have left my logic at the door when I can't grasp this clear and apparent fact that god was a talking burning bush and that woman turned to salt and the whale swallowed that one dude and that dude survived and went on to lead a merry life.

No blame-shifting needed when one can actually think logically sans the shackles of indoctrination I reckon.
Hell, that's just me I guess and clearly I don't expect the rest of humanity to believe as I do.
You forgot that nobody else on the planet actually noticed the flood and many of them have written history that pre-dates it...
 

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Lol this poor guy. Got molested around the time he became an atheist and probably had an absent father now he is just a bitter old anti-religious bigot.

Philosophy and logic aren't for him. After the God Delusion it became pretty clear he should've just kept going with his area of expertise... I.e. not logic and philosophy, but hey he still bamboozles the easily bamboozled :laugh:

I remember discussing the God Delusion with you a couple of years ago where you did that same old Techne thing where no one knows anything about philosophy apart from you. Even Sam Harris iirc who has a BA in philosophy, according to you, also doesn’t understand philosophy.

And now you come up with suppositions about Dawkins childhood. A subject he talks about in the book.

So I guess I’m asking 2 questions for clarity.

Have you read the God Delusion?

And to be a person who, in your eyes, understands philosophy, do they have to have the same religious beliefs as you?
 
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