Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

[AstroTurf]

I hope you are not seriously expecting an answer to that? Let's leave the reptile out of this.

The former part of the question perhaps?

 

[rambo919]

The former part of the question perhaps?

Nope, I've been trolled enough for the day. There is nothing in our correspondence suggesting you would actually seriously consider anything I say and I don't feel like wasting my time explaining the obvious.

 

[Pox]

Where is the difference though, you moved the "don't" to opposite ends but the meaning is the same?

I cannot do this.
This is something I cannot do.

...... same thing.

...
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That's nice dear.

 

[EADC]

Nope, I've been trolled enough for the day. There is nothing in our correspondence suggesting you would actually seriously consider anything I say and I don't feel like wasting my time explaining the obvious.

 

[AstroTurf]

I thought I was being rather polite considering...

 

[Ponderer]

To those Atheists that consider themselves capable of critical thought.
Is "I do not believe GOD exists" any different from "I believe GOD does not exist"?

Consider the "argument from incredulity" logical fallacy - where the fallacy be that "not believing something to be true" is somehow different from "believing something to be false".
"NOT x = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "x = FALSE".
"NOT believe GOD exists = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "believe GOD exists = FALSE".

Therefore.
The "non-belief that GOD exists" is in fact exactly the same as "the belief that GOD does not exist", and be as much a belief as "the belief that GOD exists".
Atheism is a belief - Atheists are believers.

 

[AstroTurf]

To those Atheists that consider themselves capable of critical thought.
Is "I do not believe GOD exists" any different from "I believe GOD does not exist"?

Consider the "argument from incredulity" logical fallacy - where the fallacy be that "not believing something to be true" is somehow different from "believing something to be false".
"NOT x = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "x = False".
"NOT believe GOD exists = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "believe GOD exists = FALSE".

Therefore.
The "non-belief that GOD exists" is in fact exactly the same as "the belief that GOD does not exist", and be as much a belief as "the belief that GOD exists".
Atheism is a belief - Atheists are believers.

Plural, not singular...

 

[ToxicBunny]

To those Atheists that consider themselves capable of critical thought.
Is "I do not believe GOD exists" any different from "I believe GOD does not exist"?

Consider the "argument from incredulity" logical fallacy - where the fallacy be that "not believing something to be true" is somehow different from "believing something to be false".
"NOT x = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "x = FALSE".
"NOT believe GOD exists = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "believe GOD exists = FALSE".

Therefore.
The "non-belief that GOD exists" is in fact exactly the same as "the belief that GOD does not exist", and be as much a belief as "the belief that GOD exists".
Atheism is a belief - Atheists are believers.

Makes no difference what drivel you post on this topic, it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

 

[Temujin]

To those Atheists that consider themselves capable of critical thought.
Is "I do not believe GOD exists" any different from "I believe GOD does not exist"?

Consider the "argument from incredulity" logical fallacy - where the fallacy be that "not believing something to be true" is somehow different from "believing something to be false".
"NOT x = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "x = FALSE".
"NOT believe GOD exists = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "believe GOD exists = FALSE".

Therefore.
The "non-belief that GOD exists" is in fact exactly the same as "the belief that GOD does not exist", and be as much a belief as "the belief that GOD exists".
Atheism is a belief - Atheists are believers.

Again, you keep assigning religious believe to opinion believe. They are not the same thing.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Again, you keep assigning religious believe to opinion believe. They are not the same thing.

Its a distinction that is obviously higher grade...

 

[rambo919]

Uhm, I would just like to point out that religion is not WHAT you believe but HOW you believe..... all religions are based on opinions, "there is/are no god/s" is an opinion not a fact....

Have fun with the self-gratification of "we smart you dumb".....

 

[Temujin]

Its a distinction that is obviously higher grade...

I've explained it, and I kid not, at least a dozen times now over various threads to him, and still the same repeat argument is made over and over that non-belief is belief ramblings completely ignoring it

 

[AstroTurf]

Uhm, I would just like to point out that religion is not WHAT you believe but HOW you believe..... all religions are based on opinions, "there is/are no god/s" is an opinion not a fact....

Have fun with the self-gratification of "we smart you dumb".....

I thought it was something to do with faith.

 

[Unhappy438]

Uhm, I would just like to point out that religion is not WHAT you believe but HOW you believe..... all religions are based on opinions, "there is/are no god/s" is an opinion not a fact....

Have fun with the self-gratification of "we smart you dumb".....

We dont take the existence of things based on opinions seriously, nobody in their right mind does.

 

[SaiyanZ]

To those Atheists that consider themselves capable of critical thought.
Is "I do not believe GOD exists" any different from "I believe GOD does not exist"?

Consider the "argument from incredulity" logical fallacy - where the fallacy be that "not believing something to be true" is somehow different from "believing something to be false".
"NOT x = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "x = FALSE".
"NOT believe GOD exists = TRUE" is in fact exactly the same as "believe GOD exists = FALSE".

Therefore.
The "non-belief that GOD exists" is in fact exactly the same as "the belief that GOD does not exist", and be as much a belief as "the belief that GOD exists".
Atheism is a belief - Atheists are believers.

I already replied to you directly on this direction of thinking you're taking. Here it is in case you "missed" the reply:

I assume you are Christian so you do not believe in the Muslim god Allah or the Greek god Zeus, etc, etc. Since you do not believe in all these other gods, that makes you 99% atheist, 1% theist. Your non-belief in gods is way stronger than your belief in gods.

Welcome to the atheist club.

If you deny this logic that you are actually an atheist, then atheism is not a religion or a belief.

Your non-belief in loads of gods makes you an atheist. i.e. only if non-belief means something and Atheism is a religion. You can't have it both ways. Everyone in the world is actually an atheist if "non-belief is a belief" because the list of things that people don't believe in is infinite.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I thought it was something to do with faith.

I suppose at is core, faith is merely an opinion....

 

[rambo919]

We dont take the existence of things based on opinions seriously, nobody in their right mind does.

So you are saying atheists are not in their right mind? Are you trolling yourself now?

 

[rambo919]

I thought it was something to do with faith.

Faith in an opinion yes. Faith in a fact is irrational, it either is or it is not.

 

[Splinter]

Nope, I've been trolled enough for the day. There is nothing in our correspondence suggesting you would actually seriously consider anything I say and I don't feel like wasting my time explaining the obvious.

And here I thought you were the one trolling....

 

[Splinter]

I've explained it, and I kid not, at least a dozen times now over various threads to him, and still the same repeat argument is made over and over that non-belief is belief ramblings completely ignoring it

It seems he tries to devolve and derail every thread with this view of his. I think it's to troll and to frustrate, as well as try and get things into a philosophical/semantic argument, where facts and reality do not count. Much like a religion of course, but with philosophy or semantics he has more leeway to troll.