Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

[Pox]

The inability to prove something to be true does not imply that it is false.
In order to prove something to be true, it must be proven to be true.
The inability to prove something to be false does not imply that it is true.
In order to prove something to be false, it must be proven to be false.

How can Atheists argue that the burden of proof is for Theists to prove that GOD exists when it can equally be argued that the burden of proof is for Atheists to prove that GOD does not exist.
The belief that GOD does not exist is as much a belief that GOD exists.

Get it?

That's nice dear.

 

[ToxicBunny]

And Ponderer wades in with his bollocks all over again whilst sticking his fingers in his ears to anything he doesn't want to hear.

 

[Temujin]

The inability to prove something to be true does not imply that it is false.
In order to prove something to be true, it must be proven to be true.
The inability to prove something to be false does not imply that it is true.
In order to prove something to be false, it must be proven to be false.

Agreed, already said as much

How can Atheists argue that the burden of proof is for Theists to prove that GOD exists when it can equally be argued that the burden of proof is for Atheists to prove that GOD does not exist.
The belief that GOD does not exist is as much a belief that GOD does not exist.

Get it?

FFS this again. No, its not 'as much', they are two different 'beliefs'. One is religious, the other opinion.... do we need to go down santa again?

 

[rietrot]

Where is God supposed to be?

I mean the more we know about the world the more tricky and hidden this God becomes. XD

~Sends a rocket up looking for god above the "firmament". "God are you here?" No apparently that's all a figure of speech.

Everywhere and we don't currently have a tool that can measure the "presence of God" so we are out of luck until someone invents such a tool.

 

[Moosedrool]

Everywhere and we don't currently have a tool that can measure the "presence of God" so we are out of luck until someone invents such a tool.

Yes because whenever something about nature becomes measurable God sneakily avoids it. Hence the firmament joke.

Sneaky God.

 

[rietrot]

Yes because whenever something about nature becomes measurable God sneakily avoids it. Hence the firmament joke.

Sneaky God.

I don't get the joke? Must be an atheist thing.
Geuss this also means you are just trolling like EADC

 

[Temujin]

I don't get the joke? Must be an atheist thing.
Geuss this also means you are just trolling like EADC

Its more of a flattard dig I think... these sort of threads usually include flattards and 6k'ers

 

[Ponderer]

FFS this again. No, its not 'as much', they are two different 'beliefs'. One is religious, the other opinion.... do we need to go down santa again?

I have already stated that the name/label of the type/kind of belief is arbitrary.

Someone that believes the bible to be true is not necessarily a Christian.
The point is that that particular belief is arbitrarily a religious belief, but is nevertheless a belief.
The belief that GOD does not exist is arbitrarily a religious belief, but is nevertheless a belief.

BTW - I am a non-religious Christian that despises religion.

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The crap Richard Dawkins spews has nothing on the crap that Benni Hinn and his ilk spews.
This includes the Vatican, and a great many other "Christian" organisations.

 

[EADC]

The inability to prove something to be true does not imply that it is false.
In order to prove something to be true, it must be proven to be true.
The inability to prove something to be false does not imply that it is true.
In order to prove something to be false, it must be proven to be false.

How can Atheists argue that the burden of proof is for Theists to prove that GOD exists when it can equally be argued that the burden of proof is for Atheists to prove that GOD does not exist.
The belief that GOD does not exist is as much a belief that GOD exists.

Get it?

I know this has been given to you already but its really simple.

Russell's teapot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[EADC]

And Ponderer wades in with his bollocks all over again whilst sticking his fingers in his ears to anything he doesn't want to hear.

But he is good fun how he plays fast and loose with the definition of things to suite his narrative.

 

[ToxicBunny]

But he is good fun how he plays fast and loose with the definition of things to suite his narrative.

Yeah I know.... definitions change depending on what aspect of his narrative he is trying to defend... The own goals in this thread alone have been pretty epic.

 

[Moosedrool]

I don't get the joke? Must be an atheist thing.
Geuss this also means you are just trolling like EADC

We got too the heavens, way higher than any tower would allow now God isn’t in the heavens but Somewhere else. If your God keeps changing his ways to be undetectable how would someone disprove him by not detecting him?

 

[EADC]

We got too the heavens, way higher than any tower would allow now God isn’t in the heavens but Somewhere else. If your God keeps changing his ways to be undetectable how would someone disprove him by not detecting him?

Aaah but that is the beauty of it the Christians learnt from the Greeks mistake of making their gods close able to be reached, One thing I will give them is they where quite crafty in that way.

 

[SaiyanZ]

We got too the heavens, way higher than any tower would allow now God isn’t in the heavens but Somewhere else. If your God keeps changing his ways to be undetectable how would someone disprove him by not detecting him?

Seems like nobody ever will disprove. As the centuries have passed, the Bible has become more and more figurative instead of literal. Any Christian who disagrees with this is being dishonest with themselves.

Eventually when people die and there is no heaven, if they could speak they would just say, 'oh ****, heaven must have been figurative as well'.

 

[AstroTurf]

The inability to prove something to be true does not imply that it is false.
In order to prove something to be true, it must be proven to be true.
The inability to prove something to be false does not imply that it is true.
In order to prove something to be false, it must be proven to be false.

How can Atheists argue that the burden of proof is for Theists to prove that GOD exists when it can equally be argued that the burden of proof is for Atheists to prove that GOD does not exist.
The belief that GOD does not exist is as much a belief that GOD exists.

Get it?

And not skiing is a sport.

 

[Ponderer]

Seems like nobody ever will disprove. As the centuries have passed, the Bible has become more and more figurative instead of literal. Any Christian who disagrees with this is being dishonest with themselves.

Eventually when people die and there is no heaven, if they could speak they would just say, 'oh ****, heaven must have been figurative as well'.

"Eventually when people die and there is no heaven, if they could speak they would just say, 'oh ****, heaven must have been figurative as well'."
Maybe so.
However.
What if its true - what if there is a "hereafter", and there is a "heaven" and a "hell".
What then?

 

[ToxicBunny]

"Eventually when people die and there is no heaven, if they could speak they would just say, 'oh ****, heaven must have been figurative as well'."
Maybe so.
However.
What if its true - what if there is a "hereafter", and there is a "heaven" and a "hell".
What then?

Then most of us go to hell and have a real party.

 

[SaiyanZ]

"Eventually when people die and there is no heaven, if they could speak they would just say, 'oh ****, heaven must have been figurative as well'."
Maybe so.
However.
What if its true - what if there is a "hereafter", and there is a "heaven" and a "hell".
What then?

If there is, both places would be hell. There would be massive overpopulation or heaven would need to be so massive that you wouldn't be able to find your friends/family. How do you fit billions of people in one place and be able to know where everyone is? There would need to be a very sophisticated home affairs system and everyone would need to be tagged so that they can be found if someone wants to see them again. Or people would need to stay where they are told if they don't want the tags. Sounds like a prison.

 

[Ponderer]

If there is both places would be hell. There would be massive overpopulation or heaven would need to be so massive that you wouldn't be able to find your friends/family. How do you fit billions of people in one place and be able to know where everyone is? There would need to be a very sophisticated home affairs system and everyone would need to be tagged so that they can be found if someone wants to see them again. Or people would need to stay where they are told if they don't want the tags. Sounds like a prison.

Everyone is free to choose to believe what/who they want.
The point is that Atheism is a belief, and is not unlike any other ("religious") belief.
An Atheist is as much a "believer" as any other "believer".

 

[AstroTurf]

"Eventually when people die and there is no heaven, if they could speak they would just say, 'oh ****, heaven must have been figurative as well'."
Maybe so.
However.
What if its true - what if there is a "hereafter", and there is a "heaven" and a "hell".
What then?

What if god was one of us....