Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

[Splinter]

So the inability to prove that something exists be proof that it does not exist?

In other words, using Moosedrools example, the non-belief in Santa Clause is as valid as your belief in your particular god.

Good luck with that dude

 

[Lupus]

Actually it's fundamentally flawed. Not that long ago or even currently (i forget the details) there were more people alive than had ever died..... simply doubling the current population would give a more accurate capacity.

You really think there are more people alive now than that have ever lived? In millenia of human existence you really believe that case? Wait I forgot what else you believe so this shouldn't astound me.

 

[Splinter]

Yes, it comes from all over. Although I can't imagine any need to make use of deities or religion to explain why some behaviour is bad, why someone died or to encourage good behaviour.

You will find a lot of parents permit the religious stuff at schools etc because it allows them to give easy, comforting answers to children to the very difficult question of death. Eg.

"Where did granny go, mommy?"

"Why, to heaven to be with the angels dear".

 

[SaiyanZ]

You really think there are more people alive now than that have ever lived? In millenia of human existence you really believe that case? Wait I forgot what else you believe so this shouldn't astound me.

It's possible as population levels only exploded around 1950 after mass farming as well as new modes of transport were invented which allowed food to transported in bulk quickly around the world. Most of these people who were born after 1950 are still alive.

Either way though, there's still billions that have died and heaven must be chaos.

 

[daveza]

How Many People Have Ever Lived on Earth?

Informing a Smarter World

www.prb.org

“Modern” Homo sapiens (that is, people who were roughly like we are now) first walked the Earth about 50,000 years ago. Since then, more than 108 billion members of our species have ever been born, according to estimates by Population Reference Bureau (PRB).

Given the current global population of about 7.5 billion (based on our most recent estimate as of mid-2017), that means those of us currently alive represent about 7 percent of the total number of humans who have ever lived.

 

[Lupus]

It's possible as population levels only exploded around 1950 after mass farming as well as new modes of transport were invented which allowed food to transported in bulk quickly around the world. Most of these people who were born after 1950 are still alive.

Either way though, there's still billions that have died and heaven must be chaos.

Yup the overall population levels might've been low world wide, but those people still had to die.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-living-outnumber-dead/

"To calculate how many people have ever lived, Haub followed a minimalist approach, beginning with two people in 50000 B.C.—his Adam and Eve. Then, using his historical growth rates and population benchmarks, he estimated that slightly over 106 billion people had ever been born. Of those, people alive today comprise only 6 percent, nowhere near 75 percent. "[It is] almost surely true people alive today are some small fraction of [all] people," says Joel Cohen, a professor of populations at the Rockefeller and Columbia Universities in New York City."

 

[SaiyanZ]

Interesting. Yeah seems like the number of people ever born are much more than I thought. High birth rates combined with short lifespans makes for a lot of dead people.

 

[Splinter]

How Many People Have Ever Lived on Earth?

Informing a Smarter World

www.prb.org

I don't see the problem. Seeing as god only spread his word a couple of thousand years ago, all those that died in the previous 48000 years before that went straight to hell.

Thus overcrowding and chaos being additional punishments to the fires of hell.

 

[SaiyanZ]

I don't see the problem. Seeing as god only spread his word a couple of thousand years ago, all those that died in the previous 48000 years before that went straight to hell.

Thus overcrowding and chaos being additional punishments to the fires of hell.

According to the estimates in the link, around 60 billion people (out of the total 108 billion ever born) have been born in the last 2000 years. So still a lot of overcrowding.

 

[Splinter]

According to the estimates in the link, around 60 billion people (out of the total 108 billion ever born) have been born in the last 2000 years. So still a lot of overcrowding.

Hmm. Guess that's why god allowed so many religions then. So unless you choose (or rather, are borne into) the right one that means you still going to hell. Even if you a good person.

Sneaky, as someone said earlier.

But, like you say, still a bit of overcrowding.

 

[rambo919]

You really think there are more people alive now than that have ever lived? In millenia of human existence you really believe that case? Wait I forgot what else you believe so this shouldn't astound me.

Calm down sally. Not all of us believe in the same heaven, the Christian one I'm partial to theoretically has room for as much as the current globe can support at maxiumum (meaning without most of the oceans). The Buddist one has infinite capacity.

 

[TysonRoux]

You guys that don't like overcrowding should seriously consider 'reverting' - the muslims have seven heavens, and lets not forget the raunchy rewards that you can expect in those heavens.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Actually it's fundamentally flawed. Not that long ago or even currently (i forget the details) there were more people alive than had ever died..... simply doubling the current population would give a more accurate capacity.

No there weren't... regardless of your opinion on the matter.

The generally accepted figure of humans who have ever lived is in the region of 110 billion.

 

[Moosedrool]

How do you feel after 17 Quintillion years in heaven knowing you're not even scratching the surface of your time there?

 

[Ponderer]

How do you feel after 17 Quintillion years in heaven knowing you're not even scratching the surface of your time there?

Quite different than in Hell?

 

[rietrot]

How do you feel after 17 Quintillion years in heaven knowing you're not even scratching the surface of your time there?

What is time really.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Quite different than in Hell?

Hell woud be a jol though... all the cool people are in hell and even you can't try deny that...

 

[Moosedrool]

Hell woud be a jol though... all the cool people are in hell and even you can't try deny that...

Imagine sharing eternity with a bunch of christians...

That sounds like hell to me.

Quite different than in Hell?

Do you think that after another few billion trillion times that you wouldn't do something stupid one day like... disagree with God?

He can read your mind after all.

 

[TysonRoux]

Imagine sharing eternity with a bunch of christians...

That sounds like hell to me.

Can just imagine the rivalry and battles between all the denominations.

 

[Splinter]

Quite different than in Hell?

Hey - stop avoiding my questions.

Otherwise, it sort of looks like you have no answers. Or maybe answers you don't want to give.