Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

[Ragnarök]

that kinda sounds familiar.
i recall reading about an individual who could walk on water, and also turn water into wine.
full scale trickery and deception

yip , he only walked on water in front of his disciples

 

[MEIOT]

Rambo doesnt like science, i believe he wants it to fall.

Fail or fall?
Because he's doing exceptionally well on both counts.

Lesson learnt though - never engage with the guy on anything. There can't be any value on any subject he can possibly offer if he believes animals can procreate without a mate and chemical expulsions can turn people in to salt.
4 year olds know better

 

[JustAsk]

Critical thinking separates dumbasses like you from the rest thank fark.

Hmmm, that not critical thinking what you describe there, but herd thinking. Critical thinking actually means going AGAINST the staus quo. When you saw SpaceX sending a Roadster into space on live tv nogal, critical thinking should've kicked in and told you that it's BS. That's just one example.

If you have applied critical thinking, you would have questioned a lot of things. Why do you wet your panties for someone that believes in scripture, yet you believe in big bangs, dark matter, god particles, billions of universes, and god knows what else...alternative facts that change every year, you can't keep up.

 

[EADC]

Hmmm, that not critical thinking what you describe there, but herd thinking. Critical thinking actually means going AGAINST the staus quo. When you saw SpaceX sending a Roadster into space on live tv nogal, critical thinking should've kicked in and told you that it's BS. That's just one example.

If you have applied critical thinking, you would have questioned a lot of things. Why do you wet your panties for someone that believes in scripture, yet you believe in big bangs, dark matter, god particles, billions of universes, and god knows what else...alternative facts that change every year, you can't keep up.

So close you nearly had it.

 

[MEIOT]

Hmmm, that not critical thinking what you describe there, but herd thinking. Critical thinking actually means going AGAINST the staus quo. When you saw SpaceX sending a Roadster into space on live tv nogal, critical thinking should've kicked in and told you that it's BS. That's just one example.

If you have applied critical thinking, you would have questioned a lot of things. Why do you wet your panties for someone that believes in scripture, yet you believe in big bangs, dark matter, god particles, billions of universes, and god knows what else...alternative facts that change every year, you can't keep up.

And...another dumbass joins the discussion with absolutely no idea what in the world he's talking about. Ignorant idiots just crawling out the woodwork en masse it would appear.
Quit your incoherent rambling and go research the subject matter you're debating. Start with the definition of logical thinking and critical thinking.
Herd thinking is owned by all mainstream religions so you can't throw that in with critical thinking. They are mutually exclusive IMO

 

[daveza]

Actually given the right conditions the current oceans could easily do it..... a large enough comet impact could cause a high tide that cycles and gradually lowers. And you are assuming that the water that covers the earth was there to begin with, what could have happened is a double-whammy of ice comet hitting the earth and causing the plate cracks which forced out subterranean sources of water, a ice comet would also break apart upon entry causing a shotgun hit for maximum coverage.

'The flood ' lasted a year before it subsided - 10 months before it dropped below the level of the highest mountains.

 

[Bryn]

Richard Dawkins is a joke.
To think that some people actually believe the crap he spouts.

That statement betrays your ignorance of Richard Dawkins. He is an extraordinary evolutionary biologist.

The Selfish Gene, The Blind Watchmaker, Climbing Mount Improbable, Unweaving the Rainbow and others are just immense. He has contributed awesome publications to the world's body of knowledge and evolutionary biology has comprised the majority of his professional life.

Personally I care little for his books on atheism. Not because I am likely to disagree with their contents but because theism is not worth anyone's time and energy imo.

Actually read some of his most celebrated works before you call Dawkins a joke. He is anything but.

 

[daveza]

Like I said, tidal wave..... it does not actually have to cover the entire earth all at once to have the desired effect. There is more than enough water on hand to do that.

Genesis 7:17

The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.

21 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.

The only living creatures on the planet were on the ark.

This of course begs the question, well what about the fish......

Have remains of fish and whales ever been found on mountain ranges... there should be plenty.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Genesis 7:17

Don't go using his book against him dammit...

 

[daveza]

Before Noah: Myths of the Flood Are Far Older Than the Bible

While the Hollywood blockbuster has been a hit, it has also faced opposition from Christians and Muslims angry with its supposed misrepresentation of their scriptures. But tales of great floods did not begin with the Bible

time.com

The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh dates back nearly 5,000 years and is thought to be perhaps the oldest written tale on the planet

In it, there is an account of the great sage Utnapishtim, who is warned of an imminent flood to be unleashed by wrathful gods. He builds a vast circular-shaped boat, reinforced with tar and pitch, that carries his relatives, grains and animals. After enduring days of storms, Utnapishtim, like Noah in Genesis, releases a bird in search of dry land.

Sound familiar ?

 

[rietrot]

These ridiculous headlines do more to push people into atheism than Richard Dawkins ever could.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Both are correct.

How dare you! That equally means both are wrong, right?

It goes well with the arguments.

Major cosmic impact 12,800 years ago: Geologic and paleontological evidence unearthed in southern Chile supports the theory that a major cosmic impact event occurred approximately 12,800 years ago

When geologists set out years ago to examine signs of a major cosmic impact that occurred toward the end of the Pleistocene epoch, little did they know just how far-reaching the projected climatic effect would be.

www.sciencedaily.com

Flood myth - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Burckle Crater - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Start with those two links. There's lots more evidence where that came from, including the fact that there are structures to be found underneath the sea which shows that some of the previous flooding actually never went away and thus a permanently reshaped coastline was the outcome.


Not everything is meant to be taken literally. It's kind of hard to say "A comet which impacted halway around the earth resulted in a massive tidal wave" when you don't have recourse to either advanced astronomy nor a basic understanding of how celestial objects displace water when they hit the ocean.


That's because there are stories of it worldwide.

How dare you come into this rather binary argument with logic, sneaky you!

What is rather amusing is how much evidence has been found for events in the bible, how the disciples of atheism try to deny using modern understanding to show people who lived thousands of years ago what idiots they were.

So many dogs in this fight.

Even so, the bible gives clues to archeologists who go seek and find ... like Solomon's mines, his kingdom.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[saor]

....how the disciples of atheism try to deny using modern understanding to show people who lived thousands of years ago what idiots they were.

I don't think the disciples of atheism think goat herders thousands of years ago were idiots, but rather that people in 2019 who continue to believe what goat herders a few thousand years ago believed are idiots. Dunno.

 

[Spizz]

Before Noah: Myths of the Flood Are Far Older Than the Bible

While the Hollywood blockbuster has been a hit, it has also faced opposition from Christians and Muslims angry with its supposed misrepresentation of their scriptures. But tales of great floods did not begin with the Bible

time.com

Sound familiar ?

Indeed the God Delusion mentions quite a few stories that the bible authors borrowed from other civilisations. In fact there are also a whole lot of Jesus’ with incredibly similar life’s and claims who happened to be around before the “real” one came along and they wrote a best seller about it.

 

[TysonRoux]

Dawkins mate - he addresses circumcision with a rabbi.

 

[Tokolotshe]

I don't think the disciples of atheism think goat herders thousands of years ago were idiots, but rather that people in 2019 who continue to believe what goat herders a few thousand years ago believed are idiots. Dunno.

Context matters. That's why archeologists score.

 

[R13...]

He hasn't read it either.

I have, and it is quite good how he dissects the 5 proofs. Grab a copy.

I tried the book and thought him ignorant of why people believe. He defines what he thinks are the reasons people believe and then goes about demolition those reasons which is a bit straw manny imo. I read parts of the book and the condescension put me off.

 

[rambo919]

Genesis 7:17





The only living creatures on the planet were on the ark.

This of course begs the question, well what about the fish......

Have remains of fish and whales ever been found on mountain ranges... there should be plenty.

I believe such remains have been found yes, also clams have been found fossilized in both closed and open positions in mountains.

However fish can easily swim in tides without dying....

And yes a collection of slow but large tidal waves can theoretically cover the entire earth.... nowhere in the text does it say that everything was covered at the same time only that it was covered.

 

[rambo919]

'The flood ' lasted a year before it subsided - 10 months before it dropped below the level of the highest mountains.

If this theoretical tide with a vast new amount of water starts it would obviously take a long time to equalize to current levels, the moon has a magnet type pull on water that is strong enough to keep the attraction but not strong enough to start the curve, there is no reason that the water would equalize quickly if the tidal mass is that large.

EDIT: of course this is only the current best practical theory I am aware of, it could be completely wrong.

 

[rambo919]

Pathetic and very predictable reply.
Let me guess...you read the shite you posted about it being a big fish and not a whale and how chemical expulsions turned that woman to salt and then you realised just how dumb you are and your childish interpretation of your holy book is massively flawed?

Here's an opportunity to educate the rest about these chemical expulsions turning people in to salt. I'm intrigued how that shite works.

Your insults are that of a drunkard.... no one in his right mind takes a drunkard seriously it only leads to stupid fights.