Jihadi John 'dead'

OrbitalDawn said:
No, it isn't.

If you want to be consistent you'd have to support foreign governments killing US citizens (in the US) who have called for violence against civilians elsewhere - of which there are plenty examples.

And again, holding the US to ISIS' standard? Geeze, dude... :erm:
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Dude, this guy has actually been cutting the heads off innocent people, with impunity.

He hasn't been calling for violence, he has been living his dream.
 
zippy said:
Whats the difference between a drone strike on these guys and a conventional bombing run to target the enemy's command and control, etc. ?
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Conventional bombing, there are rules of engagement. When it comes to drones...what are theirs? The drones, are they even managed by the US army, or is it the CIA ?
 
Pitbull said:
Imagine just to bad one can't be "conscious" after death even just for a few minutes to realise... I shyte, all that for nothing? No virgins, no god, no nothing :D
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You actually think psychopaths believe in God?
 
OrbitalDawn said:
No, it isn't.

If you want to be consistent you'd have to support foreign governments killing US citizens (in the US) who have called for violence against civilians elsewhere - of which there are plenty examples.

And again, holding the US to ISIS' standard? Geeze, dude... :erm:
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am i reading that right? i must support for the calling of my own countrymen? :wtf:
 
yebocan said:
Conventional bombing, there are rules of engagement. When it comes to drones...what are theirs? The drones, are they even managed by the US army, or is it the CIA ?
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i dont think you know what ROE are. they have them for the drones, just probably not shared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_engagement

are you thinking what the Geneva Convention says about drones.
 
crackersa said:
i dont think you know what ROE are. they have them for the drones, just probably not shared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_engagement

are you thinking what the Geneva Convention says about drones.
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I am clear what ROE are, thank you. Why the secrecy if they have ROE for drones? More likely , ROE or oversight is still "developing"...but in essence not wanting to be tied down in pesky legalities, same way Bush kept his little torture programme going...with vagueness and shrouded in secrecy.
 
crackersa said:
am i reading that right? i must support for the calling of my own countrymen? :wtf:
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... :wtf:

No.

I'm trying to get you to realise the rank hypocrisy in the US policy on this, and why it's unethical and wrong.

YingYang said:
To be fair, I don't think he knows you're a yank :twisted:
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I do, but it's irrelevant.
 
yebocan said:
I am clear what ROE are, thank you. Why the secrecy if they have ROE for drones? More likely , ROE or oversight is still "developing"...but in essence not wanting to be tied down in pesky legalities, same way Bush kept his little torture programme going...with vagueness and shrouded in secrecy.
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What you think you know what the ROE is know what it really is. Please post a govts source on ROE for navy seals operating Persian gulf. Post me the ROE of the us army operating in Columbia
 
lol... "evaporated"... that's a badass weapon!

wish they could make JZ "evaporate"
 
OrbitalDawn said:
That's part of the problem, it's incredibly secretive (beyond operational requirements, I mean) and it's very difficult to find out what process they actually follow to determine who is going to be targeted, for what reason, and based on what evidence, for example.

There's also very large problems with how civilian deaths are handled - they're also often posthumously vaguely classified as enemies, for example.

Some reading:

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-complex/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uit-over-obama-administration-drone-kill-list
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Well aware of this.

However, it's Jihadi John so I really don't care if due process was followed in this case or not.
 
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