Joburg estate bans Uber and Uber Eats drivers

ToxicBunny

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I’m pretty sure the stats favour security in estates vs non-estate living and there are plenty residents in estates that take personal responsibility for their own additional security measures.
If you take estate loving vs non estate living you are probably right... But if you compare estates at certain levels to their equivalent suburban areas I don't think it's that different...
 

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All roads inside an estate is classified as public roads and no person or body corporate can issue a fine. The only person than can give a fine is a traffic officer. Resently an estate lost a case against a resident. Public roads are there for everybody and if you have permission to enter such roads they can't do anything to you. See screenshot. Sorry was in a hurry when I did this.
 

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All roads inside an estate is classified as public roads and no person or body corporate can issue a fine. The only person than can give a fine is a traffic officer. Resently an estate lost a case against a resident. Public roads are there for everybody and if you have permission to enter such roads they can't do anything to you. See screenshot. Sorry was in a hurry when I did this.
Not anymore.


https://businesstech.co.za/news/mot...-in-south-africa-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
 

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3 pages of comments and no one mentioned this:

"contacted by a reader who told us that the body corporate of their Johannesburg complex had banned ride hailing services including Uber, Uber Eats, and Bolt. "


So one dude, one estate. Further down the article : "MyBroadband asked Uber to comment on the phenomenon of Uber drivers being banned from estates in Johannesburg "
 

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What’s the difference between a visitor only known to me coming to my unit and an Uber car coming to pick me up in front of my unit.....
 

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Why doesn't security just escort the delivery vehicle to the customer? I doubt estates are getting hundreds of deliveries per day. When I've done work at Steenberg estate in the past, I have had security escort me all the way to the clients front door, dude just jumped on his golf cart and took me straight there. Beats driving down the road at 2km/h trying to read obscure house numbers...
 

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All roads inside an estate is classified as public roads and no person or body corporate can issue a fine. The only person than can give a fine is a traffic officer. Resently an estate lost a case against a resident. Public roads are there for everybody and if you have permission to enter such roads they can't do anything to you. See screenshot. Sorry was in a hurry when I did this.[/QUOTE
As pointed out already, you'll have to update your view that made you go to all the effort to create an account. And before you go, "it was only the SCA and they can go higher::

Singh and Ramandh then appealed to the Constitutional Court, and lost.
https://www.iol.co.za/ios/news/mount-edgecombe-estate-wins-right-to-impose-speeding-fines-25548134

So it's over, a private road is not a public road.

And further:

The SCA had ruled the roads within the estate were not public and the estate did not usurp the authorities by regulating them.

It also ruled the residents were contractually bound to the estate’s rules, which were enforceable.
 

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Which is a fair request, Uber always picks me up outside.

Now being part of the body corporate we also don't allow it.
Agree, it's perfectly acceptable. If you want to use them, meet them at the gate.

A simple solution would be to let them in but have security inject them with a powerful neurotoxin like mamba venom that gives them around 10 minutes to live. They can deliver the food or collect their pax and get the antivenin shot on the way out. If they dilly-dally then they won't get far.
 

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“As such, there is a huge security risk involved in allowing them into the complex.”
Members of the complex in question must now meet these vehicles outside the estate, and must also be dropped off outside the estate.
So members getting murdered just outside the complex is fine?
 

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Where we use to live people had to meet uber and such outside and all delivery drivers had to be met by you at the gate. If its food you take it. If its bigger items like fridge/bed etc you had to go to the gate, escort them in, and back to the gate.

There have been plenty of people claiming to be uber/taxify/delivery people and then they went in to break-in/rob/steal stuff. There is over 100 homes there and limiting their access made a huge difference.
Had this at a complex abt 20yrs ago. Any delivery I had to walk / drive to the gate. Never had an issue with it? For guests, security would call me before allowing them entry. Again never had any issue with that.

In a house now, if delivery arrives, I don’t allow them into my house. They stay by the gate where we do the transaction. My house is private.
Only if it’s a big thing do I get them to bring it inside.

If we get deliveries at the office. Guess what - someone meets them at the gate for food. Or the item is signed for at reception.

So - I don’t really see the issue with any of this?
 

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Let's see owners of the complex are the body corporate, therefore a group of owners and the trustees had a meeting and discussed this. There was a vote and it passed.
The reader probably didn't attend said meeting and of course is quick to moan that the body corporate did it without consulting anyone.
 

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Closet racism, "we don't want black people in our complex".

We get it all the time with our CPF.... "there's two BM's walking down the road"...
My dads place is like that, the WhatsApp group keeps going on suspicious car driving around scoping out the area. Turns out it was someone looking for his friends house.
 

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Security is an illusion. Your best security is what YOU put up and maintain and inspect for yourself! If you are gonna rely on other people to do it for you, then prepare for there to be slip-ups.
Oh yeah our complex learnt the lesson when I lived in one. Constant attacks until each unit started doing their own security.
We woke up one early morning with the police standing in our lounge as someone tried to get in and luckily our neighbour heard and got the cops involved but not before they managed to get 90% in.
They bypassed all the complex security. We put up our own after that. Unfortunately the person who bought from us, never turned it on cause the beeping disturbed him and he was shot 3 times by someone breaking in.
 

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Let's see owners of the complex are the body corporate, therefore a group of owners and the trustees had a meeting and discussed this. There was a vote and it passed.
The reader probably didn't attend said meeting and of course is quick to moan that the body corporate did it without consulting anyone.
Came here to say this.
I feel like there's are very few of us here on MYBB (and clearly in sectional titles) that don't see a separation of owners from the body corporate
 

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Came here to say this.
I feel like there's are very few of us here on MYBB (and clearly in sectional titles) that don't see a separation of owners from the body corporate
Seems to be that's the case. It's like people keep moaning about the body corporate did this or that, meanwhile you're an owner, you're the BC.
Same as people saying free standing house as being free hold sigh.
 

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Seems to be that's the case. It's like people keep moaning about the body corporate did this or that, meanwhile you're an owner, you're the BC.
Same as people saying free standing house as being free hold sigh.
And also there are many people rent and thus they are in the “body corporate are the enemy” mode. I even know someone who has a large number of rental properties who tells his renters that the body corporate has demanded whatever it is that he needs his renters to comply with.
 

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And also there are many people rent and thus they are in the “body corporate are the enemy” mode. I even know someone who has a large number of rental properties who tells his renters that the body corporate has demanded whatever it is that he needs his renters to comply with.
Well he is an owner and having that many in one complex he's probably the body corporate :)
 

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I have an elderly family member who is legally blind, he don't drive anywhere and make use of taxis. He bought a unit in a security complex for the security and convenience of not being able to look after the unit. He often goes for eye surgery and then the taxi drops him back off at his unit in the complex. He won't be able to find his house when dropped off at the gate.

If such a rule is introduced that would be highly unfair
 
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