Joburg factory bust for employing children and illegal immigrants under 'horrific' conditions

[ArtyLoop]

On] request to go on leave, they are informed to never come back

Classic sweatshop!

 

[TheChamp]

I think Apartheid was bad but the one really bad crime was the Exploitation of labour, which in fact was carried out with all races. With the end of Apartheid you would think this is not practiced as much now. But you will find the biggest culprits these days are so called BBBE Companies.

Exactly why we need Labour laws and unions, exploitation thrives where there is no organized Labour scrutiny.

 

[Sinbad]

Exactly why we need Labour laws and unions, exploitation thrives where there is no organized Labour.

bollocks.
Just laws and enforcement would work... The unions are parasites, sucking the host dry until it SAAs...

 

[doubletrouble]

Exactly why we need Labour laws and unions, exploitation thrives where there is no organized Labour scrutiny.

Agree. But not in the current format we have now. Our unions have too much power

 

[doubletrouble]

bollocks.
Just laws and enforcement would work... The unions are parasites, sucking the host dry until it SAAs...

Unions are all over the world. They play an important part in the labour relationship. Our unions just have too much power

 

[Sinbad]

Unions are all over the world. They play an important part in the labour relationship. Our unions just have too much power

Pretty sure that just about everywhere they are corrupt and full of crap in my experience.

 

[TheChamp]

Agree. But not in the current format we have now. Our unions have too much power

What powers would you like to take away from them or reduce?

 

[Sinbad]

What powers would you like to take away from them or reduce?

1) Political alliance. They should NOT be able to influence the government.
2) Make it a prerequisite on a strike ballot that they fully inform their membership exactly what the strike will cost those members per day - with no chance of compensation.
3) Make it illegal for any union officials to be involved in any form of business that may benefit from a strike in any way.

 

[Supervan II]

Exactly why we need Labour laws and unions, exploitation thrives where there is no organized Labour scrutiny.

BS. What we need is a DoL that actually has the guts to enforce the very laws that they create, instead of just creating laws for the sake of creating laws - one wonders what actual work experience these people possess that they can't see the wood from the trees. But no, let's rather look at a company's EE numbers ...

 

[TheChamp]

BS. What we need is a DoL that actually has the guts to enforce the very laws that they create, instead of just creating laws for the sake of creating laws - one wonders what actual work experience these people possess that they can't see the wood from the trees. But no, let's rather look at a company's EE numbers ...

That and a resolute organized Labour that takes no BS from exploitative employers, it's a winning combination.

 

[McSack]

Our unions would have no impact whatsoever on the shenanigans going down at this factory. Cops did what was needed (albeit not without allowing the abuse to continue for a while before actually doing something)
From a news24 article:

The department’s provincial chief inspector, advocate Michael Msiza, said
...
...the company, Beautiful City (Pty) Ltd, "was employing 150 employees and 149 of them were illegal or undocumented foreigners",

Children, illegal workers found during raid at Chinese factory

 

[ForceFate]

Well, at least these employers qualify for BEE..!

No they don't.

 

[j4ck455]

This logic is fantastic, Ill report someone to the police with the minimum evidence without any proper proof, they should not investigate at all but rather arrest them immediately and then investigate the claims while they sit in jail and wait, is that what you rather want?

Would you rather send out invites ahead of the aforementioned hypothetical crime so the police can RSVP and be present to witness the crime?

 

[Thor]

Normal for Chinese, hence why I don't want them in our country.

 

[vigras rojara]

Normal for Chinese, hence why I don't want them in our country.

No more Chicken Kormas for you then.

 

[ponder]

No more Chicken Kormas for you then.

You want the Indians to leave as well?

 

[vigras rojara]

You want the Indians to leave as well?

Well by Thor's definition yes. He doesn't want any Chinese people here because of a few rouges, and the Guptas are Indian so....

 

[ponder]

Well by Thor's definition yes. He doesn't want any Chinese people here because of a few rouges, and the Guptas are Indian so....

There goes my bunnies & oyster beef

 

[vigras rojara]

There goes my bunnies & oyster beef

Blame Thor for that

 

[ForceFate]

If the police really wanted to see what was going on there, there are several different laws that would have facilitated obtaining a search warrant, for a start tip offs about illegal immigrants and forced labour are enough.

A minimum of 3 months and multiple tip offs before the police take any action points to police being bribed.

Or understaffed. Or backlogged. Or collecting intel (owners may have been aware they're being watched). Or a dozen other reasons...

Definitive action taken to shut down other sweatshops in the same area, that cannot be the only occurrence of slave labour.

We don't know that at this point. Hopefully the police have some intel about the area.