TEXTILE GUY
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I dunno, Guiliani seems like a lawyer that I would choose if I were impeached for sedition or the like .....
Joe Biden defeats Trump to win US election
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Veracity of the claims?
Of the 66 cases, only some of them alleged fraud. Some of them looked to kick out votes due to procedural matters, relating largely to mail in voting.
Some courts did hear the claims of voter fraud and still chucked them out as baseless.
A summary from back in December shows what the alleged merits were -
Trump's election fight includes over 50 lawsuits. It's not going well.
"Calling an election unfair does not make it so," one ruling said.
www.nbcnews.com
Most of the cases that actually allege fraud were withdrawn by the plaintiff. Quite a peculiar decision by the plaintiff, if they have such a wealth of evidence?
In Michigan the case of voter fraud was heard by 7 judges and was kicked out.
Another case was denied for inadmissible hearsay upon hearsay evidence.
A vote fraud case in Wisconsin was heard and the plaintiffs voluntarily dismissed the case.
In a Sydney Powell fraud case the judge said this -
It goes on.
Why did they not take the evidence to the police? In PA two Trump voters were caught voting twice and were referred to the police.
Sooooo you are being disingenuous with your regurgitated Qanon claims. A fair margin of cases did not allege fraud, where they related to efforts to wipe out votes cast by mail and similar means. They were mostly kicked due issues like jurisdiction and time related matters. Mainly because such cases needed to come before the election and in many cases they were in accordance with the very rules set by the Republicans who were now trying to overturn their own rules.
The cases that did allege fraud mostly resulted in plaintiffs withdrawing. Some cases did reach a judge and were evaluated on their merits and kicked for lack of evidence.
It begs the question why withdraw your owncase of fraud, when you have sooooo much evidence of the largest scale of voting fraud in American history ...
You largely ignore the fact that actual cases of fraud can be reported to the police and justice department, as was done in PA and investigated, which led to the arrest of two people, for voting on behalf of their dead mothers.
The Justice Department, run by Trump appointee, William Barr has explicitly stated that they have not encountered any large scale cases of fraud, as alleged.
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Veracity of the claims?
Of the 66 cases, only some of them alleged fraud. Some of them looked to kick out votes due to procedural matters, relating largely to mail in voting.
Some courts did hear the claims of voter fraud and still chucked them out as baseless.
A summary from back in December shows what the alleged merits were -
Trump's election fight includes over 50 lawsuits. It's not going well.
"Calling an election unfair does not make it so," one ruling said.
Most of the cases that actually allege fraud were withdrawn by the plaintiff. Quite a peculiar decision by the plaintiff, if they have such a wealth of evidence?
In Michigan the case of voter fraud was heard by 7 judges and was kicked out.
Another case was denied for inadmissible hearsay upon hearsay evidence.
A vote fraud case in Wisconsin was heard and the plaintiffs voluntarily dismissed the case.
In a Sydney Powell fraud case the judge said this -
It goes on.
Why did they not take the evidence to the police? In PA two Trump voters were caught voting twice and were referred to the police.
Sooooo you are being disingenuous with your regurgitated Qanon claims. A fair margin of cases did not allege fraud, where they related to efforts to wipe out votes cast by mail and similar means. They were mostly kicked due issues like jurisdiction and time related matters. Mainly because such cases needed to come before the election and in many cases they were in accordance with the very rules set by the Republicans who were now trying to overturn their own rules.
The cases that did allege fraud mostly resulted in plaintiffs withdrawing. Some cases did reach a judge and were evaluated on their merits and kicked for lack of evidence.
It begs the question why withdraw your owncase of fraud, when you have sooooo much evidence of the largest scale of voting fraud in American history ...
You largely ignore the fact that actual cases of fraud can be reported to the police and justice department, as was done in PA and investigated, which led to the arrest of two people, for voting on behalf of their dead mothers.
The Justice Department, run by Trump appointee, William Barr has explicitly stated that they have not encountered any large scale cases of fraud, as alleged.
Belief, instinct...
Tofu
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Tea Party nutjobs...
'I Don't Think She Deserved to Die': Black Activist Who Filmed Ashli Babbitt Shooting Speaks Out
Activist and video journalist John Sullivan describes how he captured raw, comprehensive footage of the chaos and violence at the storming of the U.S. Capitol
www.rollingstone.com
John Sullivan was there as a video journalist. The tea party have always been nutjobs though.
Aquila ka Hecate
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Thank you for detailing this.Veracity of the claims?
Of the 66 cases, only some of them alleged fraud. Some of them looked to kick out votes due to procedural matters, relating largely to mail in voting.
Some courts did hear the claims of voter fraud and still chucked them out as baseless.
A summary from back in December shows what the alleged merits were -
Trump's election fight includes over 50 lawsuits. It's not going well.
"Calling an election unfair does not make it so," one ruling said.
Most of the cases that actually allege fraud were withdrawn by the plaintiff. Quite a peculiar decision by the plaintiff, if they have such a wealth of evidence?
In Michigan the case of voter fraud was heard by 7 judges and was kicked out.
Another case was denied for inadmissible hearsay upon hearsay evidence.
A vote fraud case in Wisconsin was heard and the plaintiffs voluntarily dismissed the case.
In a Sydney Powell fraud case the judge said this -
It goes on.
Why did they not take the evidence to the police? In PA two Trump voters were caught voting twice and were referred to the police.
Sooooo you are being disingenuous with your regurgitated Qanon claims. A fair margin of cases did not allege fraud, where they related to efforts to wipe out votes cast by mail and similar means. They were mostly kicked due issues like jurisdiction and time related matters. Mainly because such cases needed to come before the election and in many cases they were in accordance with the very rules set by the Republicans who were now trying to overturn their own rules.
The cases that did allege fraud mostly resulted in plaintiffs withdrawing. Some cases did reach a judge and were evaluated on their merits and kicked for lack of evidence.
It begs the question why withdraw your owncase of fraud, when you have sooooo much evidence of the largest scale of voting fraud in American history ...
You largely ignore the fact that actual cases of fraud can be reported to the police and justice department, as was done in PA and investigated, which led to the arrest of two people, for voting on behalf of their dead mothers.
The Justice Department, run by Trump appointee, William Barr has explicitly stated that they have not encountered any large scale cases of fraud, as alleged.
I know - anyone who follows current affairs knows - that this was the case, but it seems trumpanzees and the like live in a differnent plenum.
PS: even my initially Trump-supporting partner knows this. His brain is still intact, I guess.
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Yeah, but there was no evidence of Russian Collusion, and yet there was a special investigation to investigate claims of collusion. Just trying to use consistent logic.
Could you please stop trying to explain my position for me? Your opinion on what you think I expect is hopelessly wrong. As @Cray asked me, what is it with you and the collective. Who said I ever believed QAnon?
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Gnarls
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Collusion Greg, collusion and the point was before the investigation there was no evidence. Thanks for playing.
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I think it was Giuliani who was grifted bro. Who goes into an agreement with a notorious bilker on the basis of 'we'll sort it out at the end' dumb-dumbs, all the way down.
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Why, so you can present me with a wall of gifs. No thanks.
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Only tangentially related to the elections, but this study is fascinating:
reasonstobecheerful.world
For Zhao, a major takeaway is the potential cost savings of a program like this for the government. Because of the reduced nights spent in emergency shelters, each cash recipient saved the government roughly $8,000 over the course of the year. Less the cost of the cash transfer, each cash recipient produced a net savings of more than $600 — and were substantially further along the path of pulling themselves out of poverty, experiencing a much more balanced life than they might have in the shelter system. While the pilot project was funded by Foundations for Social Change, which is primarily supported by foundation grants, Zhao says this evidence points to an obvious policy solution.
Vancouver Gave Homeless People $5,800. It Changed Their Lives.
A single infusion of cash helped recipients pay their rent, buy some food, get to work -- and put their lives back on track.
reasonstobecheerful.world
Vancouver Gave Homeless People $5,800. It Changed Their Lives.
A single infusion of cash helped recipients pay their rent, get to work — and put their lives back on track.For Zhao, a major takeaway is the potential cost savings of a program like this for the government. Because of the reduced nights spent in emergency shelters, each cash recipient saved the government roughly $8,000 over the course of the year. Less the cost of the cash transfer, each cash recipient produced a net savings of more than $600 — and were substantially further along the path of pulling themselves out of poverty, experiencing a much more balanced life than they might have in the shelter system. While the pilot project was funded by Foundations for Social Change, which is primarily supported by foundation grants, Zhao says this evidence points to an obvious policy solution.
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I think her death is tragic, considering the misguided reasons why she was there, but she did choose to attempt to cross a line that security would not let anybody cross at any cost.'I Don't Think She Deserved to Die': Black Activist Who Filmed Ashli Babbitt Shooting Speaks Out
Activist and video journalist John Sullivan describes how he captured raw, comprehensive footage of the chaos and violence at the storming of the U.S. Capitol
John Sullivan was there as a video journalist. The tea party have always been nutjobs though.
She tried to cross the ultimate line there on that day, and paid the ultimate price for it.
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On second thought, this could work. After all, she personally created 14 million jobs out of 6.3 million jobs created in USA. If she scales this to voters, we have a winner.
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No going to lie, I'm absolutely loving the online citizen-sleuthing that's identifying so many of these f**kers.
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