Joe Biden defeats Trump to win US election

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AlmightyBender said:
Everything you just said, every single part of it is hypothetical. Evidence. You have none. Only belief. Proving my point.
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The evidence is the fact that the system itself isn't trustworthy. It heavily depends on the trust of the people running it.

To use an analogy, lets look at Instant EFTs, the kind that require you to hand over your internet banking password to a third party.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/bank...eft-services-south-african-banks-explain.html

Now the people running it say that there has been no fraud since 2014:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/banking/378074-no-fraud-on-instant-eft-since-launch-in-2014-ozow.html

You are making the really silly argument that just because someone says that there was no fraud on their untrustworthy system, it is a flawless system. So using your defence of the US election system, you would quite happily hand over your internet banking password to a third party.

This recent election most likely didn't have any fraud in it, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is trustworthy.
 
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NarrowBandFtw said:
one of these days you'll realise you owe your brother a huge apology for all the misplaced judgment, in the meantime:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349885882262761473
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Woman in video at Capitol with arrested activist is not with CNN

CLAIM: A video shows a CNN reporter disguised herself as a Trump supporter and conspired with a Black Lives Matter activist to incite a riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False...
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But Sacker does not work for CNN. “I am not a CNN journalist,” Sacker wrote Friday in an email to AP, adding that she is not “currently affiliated with any news organization.”

Some other posts called her an “NBC/NPR affiliated reporter.” But while Sacker said she has freelanced for CNBC and NPR in the past, she was not working for either on Jan. 6.

“I was in the Capitol following John Sullivan as part of a documentary I have been producing for the past four months, which follows both him and his brother James,” Sullivan wrote in the email. “The film intends to portray the emotional interior of the family’s story as they become divided” by the brothers’ “opposing political activism.”

Sacker told the AP the video was shot early in the insurrection, “before crowds closed in” and Babbitt was shot, which she said she did not witness. She said when she gave Sullivan a hug, she had been separated from him throughout the day and had been relieved to see him.

“My statements after this are not ones of conspiratorial success, but rather that I was shocked we were on the frontlines of covering this historic and very surreal event. At the time, I hadn’t seen John’s footage or heard many of the things he was saying,” Sacker said.

Sacker told the AP she had asked Sullivan not to record because “I am incredibly private.”
 
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cerebus said:
But Sacker does not work for CNN. “I am not a CNN journalist,” Sacker wrote Friday in an email to AP, adding that she is not “currently affiliated with any news organization.”
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you expect her to say anything else if she was in fact caught in the act?
 
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NarrowBandFtw said:
you expect her to say anything else if she was in fact caught in the act?
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I've given plenty of evidence of the hardcore Trump supporters who ransacked the Capitol building, you've posted one sketchy 30 second video that took me about a minute to debunk. And you've done nothing to explain away the hundreds of known Magaheads who were filmed in the building. Your standard of evidence is absolutely appalling.
 
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cerebus said:
I've given plenty of evidence of the hardcore Trump supporters who ransacked the Capitol building, you've posted one sketchy 30 second video that took me about a minute to debunk. And you've done nothing to explain away the hundreds of known Magaheads who were filmed in the building. Your standard of evidence is absolutely appalling.
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TIL "Baked Alaska" and Nic Fuentes are Antifa.
 
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cerebus said:
I've given plenty of evidence of the hardcore Trump supporters who ransacked the Capitol building, you've posted one sketchy 30 second video that took me about a minute to debunk. And you've done nothing to explain away the hundreds of known Magaheads who were filmed in the building. Your standard of evidence is absolutely appalling.
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You are wasting your time I'm afraid. These QAnon types are, as the psychiatrists would say, "far gone".
 
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NarrowBandFtw said:
one of these days you'll realise you owe your brother a huge apology for all the misplaced judgment, in the meantime:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349885882262761473
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Who's the member of BLM/Antifa mentioned as cheering? The woman? That woman also said, if I'm hearing right, "I could do you right now." (It is as easy to assume that this is what she was concerned with regarding the recording - It is the only bit of the video I can see that she might want off the record. Other than her being there at all.)
And I must say it looked at that point as if the Capitol was well and Truly penetrated already.

Do you think it's possible that, I don't know, reporters were excited to get footage of the events from inside?
"Is this not gonna be the best film you've ever made in your life"
The BBC was also there. Documenting what was going on inside? Was the BBC in on it?

Here's his take.

If you look at the rest of the footage that same woman later reprimanded him for even banging against a window in case it broke (further) while they were looking to the outside of the capitol from within to film the crowd.
Do you think they were among the MAGA heads beating cops with flags and throwing fire extinguishers at them later when the police tried to restore order? I don't.
 
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These Antifa blokes are legit hardcore.

Storm the Capitol, get it blamed on MAGA and miraculously have no Antifa members arrested and instead only long time MAGA supporters are the ones being arrested.

Was this the real 64-D chess?
 
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lumeer said:
25 more hours until the madness is officially over!
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And look - this started already - no one dared lift an eyelid at US during orange mussolini tenure -

www.theguardian.com

Trump slams the door on his way out | First Thing

Trump is to host his exit ceremony shortly before Biden’s inauguration and issue dozens of pardons. Plus: Comey says the GOP needs to be ‘burned down or changed’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

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cerebus said:
I've given plenty of evidence of the hardcore Trump supporters who ransacked the Capitol building, you've posted one sketchy 30 second video that took me about a minute to debunk. And you've done nothing to explain away the hundreds of known Magaheads who were filmed in the building. Your standard of evidence is absolutely appalling.
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you haven't debunked anything, if that is your definition of "debunked" then your standard of evidence is the thing lacking
 
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NarrowBandFtw said:
you haven't debunked anything, if that is your definition of "debunked" then your standard of evidence is the thing lacking
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Well you haven't proven anything. If that is your definition of "proof" then your standard of evidence is the thing lacking.

The FBI probably did a more thorough review of his involvement than you did when they detained and questioned him. And then released him.
 
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