Judges warning tells it like it is.

[daveza]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo...r_Of_Jails_Gorilla_Predators_In_Stark_Warning

Judge's 'Gorilla' Warning To Teen


8:16am UK, Tuesday January 06, 2009

A young driving offender has been told he faces the prospect of a jail shower "with the gorillas in the mist" if he continues to break the law.

The magistrate warned the teen he would be jailed next time.

Sydney Magistrate Brian Maloney gave 19-year-old Cody Heap a stark warning about jail life in an attempt to scare the youth into good behaviour.

"You'll find big, ugly, hairy strong men (in jail) who've got faces only a mother could love that will pay a lot of attention to you - and your anatomy," the magistrate said.

Heap appeared at the city's Downing Centre Court charged with driving without a licence, failing to stop at a police alcohol check point and driving dangerously.

It was his third time before the courts for driving offences - prompting the magistrate's warning he would be jailed next time.

lol @ gorillas in the mist !

 

[Slaine73]

LOL Now that is funny

 

[2CentsWorth]

How long before he gets labelled a racist?

 

[Slaine73]

How long before he gets labelled a racist?

Or they'll say he is anti-gay or homo-phobic or something like that

 

[marine1]

Brilliant

 

[koffiejunkie]

How long before he gets labelled a racist?

Or they'll say he is anti-gay or homo-phobic or something like that

The UK is funny like that. Very sensitive sometimes, but at other times they let rip and no one raises an eyebrow. Some time ago there was a snippet on the news about Prince William or Prince Harry wanting to train as an Apache (?) pilot. So this army general was explaining that only the smartest and best guys get to do this, and that (I kid you not) the Prince have proven that he is not the brightest crayon in the box or the sharpest tool in the shed or something to that effect. I was speechless - thought this guy was going to be out of a job in the next few minutes. He certainly wasn't mincing his words. But no one really cares. Sometimes I think the media reports on supposed cultural/political sensitivities just for the sake of sensation while most people couldn't be bothered.

 

[chiskop]

The UK is funny like that.

Last I checked, Sydney was in Australia.

 

[koffiejunkie]

Last I checked, Sydney was in Australia.

I know, I was just commenting on the "straight talk" aspect.

 

[PeterCH]

In other words the judge also confirmed the miscarriage of justice
the teen would endure if he were to be incarcerated. Not only
does he have his freedom taken away for a period of time, he
will also be tortured and possibly infected with HIV - ie handed a death sentence. While I don't disapprove of the judges' speech effect on the
teen, I do find it shocking that the judge condoned the miscarriage
of justice so much.

 

[Slaine73]

In other words the judge also confirmed the miscarriage of justice
the teen would endure if he were to be incarcerated. Not only
does he have his freedom taken away for a period of time, he
will also be tortured and possibly infected with HIV - ie handed a death sentence. While I don't disapprove of the judges' speech effect on the
teen, I do find it shocking that the judge condoned the miscarriage
of justice so much.

It is rather shocking and sad if you look at it from that angle yes.

 

[Good Life]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo...r_Of_Jails_Gorilla_Predators_In_Stark_Warning



lol @ gorillas in the mist !

Classic!

 

[PeterCH]

It is rather shocking and sad if you look at it from that angle yes.

You know the US meme - "Federal-pound-me-in-the-a_s prison"?

Petty criminals mix with more violent criminals and become worse criminals
on top of that most weaker convicts are abused physically, psychologically
and sexually. That never gets chartered in by the court when they convict
a person and sentence him to a jail term. The government instead of ensuring the safety of convicts instead let's them be sodomised, abused, killed etc
- see the injustice of this justice system?

You know if you want to sentence someone, sentence them but their sentence should be served in dignity.

 

[R/SGT]

Guys Jail is not a nice place that is what he was trying to impress on this youngster. He was using the views carried by the general public to try and get the point across, to say that this was a miscarriage of justice is rather naive.

Prison authorities do there utmost to prevent incidents like the judge described, but even in a tightly controlled situation like prison it is impossible.

Unfortunately prisons do not attract the best people to work there either

 

[PeterCH]

Guys Jail is not a nice place that is what he was trying to impress on this youngster. He was using the views carried by the general public to try and get the point across, to say that this was a miscarriage of justice is rather naive.

Prison authorities do there utmost to prevent incidents like the judge described, but even in a tightly controlled situation like prison it is impossible.

Unfortunately prisons do not attract the best people to work there either

Naive?

This is a judge speaking, the guardian of justice. The justice system is supposed to be fair, and the sentences are supposed to be --just.
With the added abuse in prisons, they certainly aren't.

 

[shadowfox]

Naive?

This is a judge speaking, the guardian of justice. The justice system is supposed to be fair, and the sentences are supposed to be --just.
With the added abuse in prisons, they certainly aren't.

I agree with you up to a point - but isn't it a fact that by giving him a warning like this the judge might just prevent any more irresponsible behaviour?

I don't think he's condoning it at all - but if his warning hits home he'll have spared that youngster time in jail, stopped him from committing a crime - which is what the justice system is all about in the end.

 

[R/SGT]

Naive?

This is a judge speaking, the guardian of justice. The justice system is supposed to be fair, and the sentences are supposed to be --just.
With the added abuse in prisons, they certainly aren't.

It was his third time before the courts for driving offences - prompting the magistrate's warning he would be jailed next time.

That sounds fair and just??

 

[daveza]

As per the thread title, the judge is telling it like it is.

What he warns of is fact whether it is right or not. I don't see him saying what goes on in prison is acceptable in any way.

Perhaps he should send this kid there for just a day.

 

[PeterCH]

That sounds fair and just??

I think you're misunderstanding me.

I'm saying the judge is tacitly approving of the abuse which goes on in jails which are no longer meant to be medieval dungeons of torture but
civilised zones of incarceration. When you get sentenced to prison
you only get sentenced to have your freedom of movement suspended for
the given period of time. Moden day sentences do not include rape,
sodomy, molestation, bullying, physical abuse, infection with deadly diseases and possible death; yet the reality in many prisons is such that the prisoner
gets more than just the sentence, they get all the other tortures too.
The judge here recognises this. It's quite worrying that the justice system which prides itself on fairness - and it's captains - judges can be so coy
about the cruel and unusual punishments they hand out with their
sentences.

I'm not commenting on the teen himself, that's a seperate issue.

 

[Slaine73]

Even though they have taken away the death penalty it is one any way...

 

[R/SGT]

It was his third time before the courts for driving offences

I think the judge is doing his utmost to keep this youngster out of jail, the warning is a latch ditch attempt to scare him right.

As I said the judge was proberly playing on the publics perception of what goes on in jail to try and scare the kid it behaving.