Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’

[Cius]

A sick sick world.

 

[Vrotappel]

The story is mostly bs, no mainstream site will carry it (not even fox). Only place you will see mention of it is on conservative/religious sites while the dad begs for donations. The story does not match up to court records.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/dlicli

I really hope its a BS story.

 

[noxibox]

Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week

Georgulas said that James first wanted a girls’ toy from McDonald’s and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney’s Frozen and asking to wear dresses.

This kind of silly thinking is a direct consequence of the ridiculous belief that boys and girls have specific interests and preferences determined by their biological sex. It is confirmed by idiotic nonsense like having toy aisles designated for each sex. Parents start this stupidity early on by dressing their child in supposedly sex specific colours and denying their children toys they consider to be for the other sex.

She said she contacted the GENecis clinic at Children’s Hospital Center, and they referred her to Rebekka Ouer for counseling. Ouer recommended a process of “affirmation” and thought that a “social transition” for James to begin going to school dressed as a girl named “Luna” would be in his best interest.

More total stupidity. There was no need to seek counselling.

all stated that at some point, independent of his mother, James told them that he wanted to be called “Luna” and referred to as a girl

A child is not independent of the influence of their parent. They also have a tendency to want to please their parents. This could be nothing more than his mother's influence and his natural desire to please her.

What works is just leaving your child to their personal preferences. If your little girl likes climbing trees and playing with trucks it doesn't mean she's really a boy. Your little boy loving Frozen and playing with tea sets doesn't mean he's really a girl. Just accept your child's unique personality and give them the freedom to be who they are.

Gender fluid is simply a term for something that is just part of normal human variation, because males and females don't exclusively conform to the stereotypical masculine or feminine, and never have. Males might mostly lean towards the masculine and vice versa, but that doesn't mean that there is anything unusual in those that don't. Using the term gender fluid implies they're somehow not normal.

 

[Emjay]

Gosh, what an endorsement, you mean the Fake News Media won't carry a story...
Good to see there are still good people condemning this "transitioning" of children as pure child abuse and hatred.

Very controversial issues, such as this and the issue of baby parts being sold, seem to not get any attention in the media despite there being a story there. Alternative media is the way forward, as all main streams outlet cannot be trusted to give unfiltered and unbiased news.

 

[supersunbird]

Very controversial issues, such as this and the issue of baby parts being sold, seem to not get any attention in the media despite there being a story there. Alternative media is the way forward, as all main streams outlet cannot be trusted to give unfiltered and unbiased news.

Yet the alternative media can also be so full of fake news.

 

[Emjay]

Yes the alternative media can be so full of fake news.

I don't deny it. Hence why you shouldn't trust any of it. I just put more faith in good, independent journalists. Journalism these days at big media houses is about regurgitating what is already out there, opinion pieces, working with the #resist guys (anti and never-Trumpers) and trying to manufacture controversy so they can report on it. The media, in my view, is actually enabling corruption if the accused is on the right side, or if it fits into a narrative.

 

[SoldierMan]

If true it truly is unbelievable that a jury could reach a decision like this. 7 years old! Frikken 7!!
That b!tch of a mother should be whipped and sent for psychiatric help. But these days the psychiatrists have all drank the progressive kool aid so I guess that wouldn't help.
Really feel sorry for the kid. He's just an innocent who wanted a Frozen toy. Lord help him in 5-10 years time.

 

[Craig_]

This child will be messed up by the time it reaches adulthood.

 

[konfab]

This kind of silly thinking is a direct consequence of the ridiculous belief that boys and girls have specific interests and preferences determined by their biological sex. It is confirmed by idiotic nonsense like having toy aisles designated for each sex. Parents start this stupidity early on by dressing their child in supposedly sex specific colours and denying their children toys they consider to be for the other sex.

So silly that you can observe the behaviour in a different species. Your retarded ideal of social constructivism doesn't hold up against evolutionary biology.

You can observe similar toy preferences in toys that rhesus monkeys pick.

Socialization processes, parents, or peers encouraging play with gender specific toys are thought to be the primary force shaping sex differences in toy preference. A contrast in view is that toy preferences reflect biologically determined preferences for specific activities facilitated by specific toys. Sex differences in juvenile activities, such as rough and tumble play, peer preferences, and infant interest, share similarities in humans and monkeys. Thus if activity preferences shape toy preferences, male and female monkeys may show toy preferences similar to those seen in boys and girls. We compared the interactions of 34 rhesus monkeys, living within a 135 monkey troop, with human wheeled toys and plush toys. Male monkeys, like boys, showed consistent and strong preferences for wheeled toys, while female monkeys, like girls, showed greater variability in preferences. Thus, the magnitude of preference for wheeled over plush toys differed significantly between males and females. The similarities to human findings demonstrate that such preferences can develop without explicit gendered socialization. We offer the hypothesis that toy preferences reflect hormonally influenced behavioral and cognitive biases which are sculpted by social processes into the sex differences seen in monkeys and humans

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/

Since you clearly are a woke progressive who is certainly isn't a science denier by any means, why don't you listen to a talk by an evolutionary psychologist on this matter.

The papers he refers to are in a blog post here:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ex-specific-toy-preferences-learned-or-innate

What works is just leaving your child to their personal preferences. If your little girl likes climbing trees and playing with trucks it doesn't mean she's really a boy. Your little boy loving Frozen and playing with tea sets doesn't mean he's really a girl. Just accept your child's unique personality and give them the freedom to be who they are.

Gender fluid is simply a term for something that is just part of normal human variation, because males and females don't exclusively conform to the stereotypical masculine or feminine, and never have. Males might mostly lean towards the masculine and vice versa, but that doesn't mean that there is anything unusual in those that don't. Using the term gender fluid implies they're somehow not normal.

None of that stuff implies that they should be given hormones and surgically mutilated.
The real sad part is that none of the hormones and surgery will ever be able to override biological reality. In the past, people just accepted who they were. Being a tomboy for example was simply who they were. Ironically this progressivism has gone backwards and now encourages these people to go into a hormonally and surgically induced closet.

 

[Nerfherder]

The story is mostly bs, no mainstream site will carry it (not even fox). Only place you will see mention of it is on conservative/religious sites while the dad begs for donations. The story does not match up to court records.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/dlicli

From what I have heard on the medical guidelines this is probably a complete misrepresentation of what is happening.

Which is why no one is really taking the story seriously.

 

[Emjay]

So silly that you can observe the behaviour in a different species. Your retarded ideal of social constructivism doesn't hold up against evolutionary biology.

You can observe similar toy preferences in toys that rhesus monkeys pick.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/

Since you clearly are a woke progressive who is certainly isn't a science denier by any means, why don't you listen to a talk by an evolutionary psychologist on this matter.

The papers he refers to are in a blog post here:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ex-specific-toy-preferences-learned-or-innate

There is this too:

Study shows equality frees women to follow traditional gender choices – or does it?

Gender differences in jobs and attitudes are wider in countries with more equality, but that’s not the end of the story.

theconversation.com

If you want gender equality, get rich. Research shows that men and women tend to be more equal in more developed countries. You might expect that the more equal opportunities in these countries might reduce other differences between the genders, such as what kind of jobs people are more likely to have, or personality traits such as kindness or a tendency for risk-taking. But a new study published in Science argues the opposite, that greater equality actually widens these kind of gender differences.

 

[Eniigma]

So silly that you can observe the behaviour in a different species. Your retarded ideal of social constructivism doesn't hold up against evolutionary biology.

You can observe similar toy preferences in toys that rhesus monkeys pick.

Funny how when it suits the agenda, we happy to be compared with animals, but when it doen't we're not.

FFS we're not the same as other animals, we're so much more advanced and developed etc.

So this retarded ideal of social constructivism doesn't hold up against evolutionary biology, it means I can go around and shag anything I wish without consent because you know, you can observe similar toy preferences behavour in toys that rhesus monkeys pick dogs.

 

[Eniigma]

The story is mostly bs, no mainstream site will carry it (not even fox). Only place you will see mention of it is on conservative/religious sites while the dad begs for donations. The story does not match up to court records.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/dlicli

In the articles it said " Judge Kim Cooks will read her ruling on possession, child support, and Dr. Georgulas’ other requests at 1:30 p.m. CST on Wednesday". Which is later tonight in our time, maybe a more mainstream new outlet will pick it up after that. Who knows.

Surpised BBC is not all over this, with the judge rulling in favour of the poor lady doctor and protecting the child from the toxic manliness of the father.

 

[konfab]

FFS we're not the same as other animals, we're so much more advanced and developed etc.

We have higher intelligence. That doesn't mean we don't share a huge amount of similarity with other animals. Especially animals that are closer to use on the evolutionary tree so to speak.

So this retarded ideal of social constructivism doesn't hold up against evolutionary biology, it means I can go around and shag anything I wish without consent because you know, you can observe similar toy preferences behavour in toys that rhesus monkeys pick dogs.

Stating that boys prefer things and girls prefer people is a descriptive statement. Not a prescriptive one. You are trying to (and failing really badly as I shall explain in a bit) infer an "ought" from an "is".

The reason why you have failed badly is that pretty much all successful human societies in the world have independently evolved a system of ethics that severely punishes people who go around shagging things like dogs. The explanation of this is that human reproduction is extremely expensive for parents compared to other animals (due to our large brains and their inability to fit through a woman's pelvis, thus we are born premature compared to other animals), therefore societies that had the genetic and social genes for preventing that type of behaviour would be far more successful than the societies that don't.

Trying to regard humans as completely separate creatures from the animal kingdom is simply delusional.

 

[Eniigma]

The reason why you have failed badly is that pretty much all successful human societies in the world have independently evolved a system of ethics that severely punishes people who go around shagging things like dogs. The explanation of this is that human reproduction is extremely expensive for parents compared to other animals (due to our large brains and their inability to fit through a woman's pelvis, thus we are born premature compared to other animals), therefore societies that had the genetic and social genes for preventing that type of behaviour would be far more successful than the societies that don't.

Trying to regard humans as completely separate creatures from the animal kingdom is simply delusional.

Lol you putting way to much into that response than it needed. It was a stupid reply in response to a stupid statement. Bascially you're saying it fails and stupid because we've evolved and know better and in a nut shell aren't the same for all the reasons you mentioned. I just find the whole compairing humans to animals stupid.

It's like someone I know always say "humans are only animals that drink milk as adults" while trying to convince me it's bad for me. To which I reply humans are the only animals that drive cars, cook their food and wear clothes, must we give all that up too?


Any way for what it's worth, I agree with point you're were trying to make before i hijacked it with animal thing, that there is 100% a prefernce shown by boys and girls over the toys they prefer and how they interact with the same toys.

A girl will play dress up and nurtue a barbi, a boy will blow it up or throw it, drop it, make it do active / action things.

 

[SoldierMan]

Sad thing is that when trends like this take place in the US many other countries just copy it to be woke.
SA seems to be following behind like a good little poodle as expected.

 

[Swa]

We have higher intelligence. That doesn't mean we don't share a huge amount of similarity with other animals. Especially animals that are closer to use on the evolutionary tree so to speak.



Stating that boys prefer things and girls prefer people is a descriptive statement. Not a prescriptive one. You are trying to (and failing really badly as I shall explain in a bit) infer an "ought" from an "is".

The reason why you have failed badly is that pretty much all successful human societies in the world have independently evolved a system of ethics that severely punishes people who go around shagging things like dogs. The explanation of this is that human reproduction is extremely expensive for parents compared to other animals (due to our large brains and their inability to fit through a woman's pelvis, thus we are born premature compared to other animals), therefore societies that had the genetic and social genes for preventing that type of behaviour would be far more successful than the societies that don't.

Trying to regard humans as completely separate creatures from the animal kingdom is simply delusional.

Evolutionary mumbo jumbo. We are actually more aligned genetically to other animals than to monkeys and it's just a misguided idea based on outer similarities. In any case how much of it do you think is biologic and how much is learned behaviour based on tradition. The weird thing is that the toys we give to girls though they look human are actually dumbed down sexually while "boys" toys resemble the characteristics we find attractive.

 

[konfab]

Evolutionary mumbo jumbo. We are actually more aligned genetically to other animals than to monkeys and it's just a misguided idea based on outer similarities. In any case how much of it do you think is biologic and how much is learned behaviour based on tradition. The weird thing is that the toys we give to girls though they look human are actually dumbed down sexually while "boys" toys resemble the characteristics we find attractive.

It isn't weird if you understand that evolutionary "mumbo jumbo".
If you look at the toys that girls are interested in, they have disproportionately large and round heads with large eyes.

Example 1: the grotesquely named Bratz

The explanation for this is that babies also have large round heads with eyes. If you morph photos of real babies to increase or decrease this effect, you can change how both men and woman perceive the cuteness of the photo.

And as that evolutionary mumbo jumbo predicts, because woman are evolved to be the caregivers for children, they will percieve this more than men.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3260535/

The market forces in the case with children's toys have perfectly figured out the biological preferences of girls and maxed them out completely.

 

[rambo919]

I wore dresses and played with dolls for fun a few times as a kid..... never felt female and never repeated it. Kids will do any and everything it does not actually mean anything.

 

[ArtyLoop]

Amazing... you have to be 18 to get a tattoo but this is somehow OK.