JUST IN | US Supreme Court ends constitutional right to abortion

Deadmanza

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That's exactly the point he's arguing though. He says mother's should have the right to decide to kill their children? What part of that am I misunderstanding?
Conservative nutters such as yourself aren't able to grasp the nuance that a fetus =! a child.
The fact that you are able to liken the article of a mother bashing a child to death and a woman choosing not to have a fetus mature into a child is the problem with you lot.
 

greg0205

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Those acts are already illegal. The state has taken the necessary steps to try snd stop it and criminalized it.

In this case I'm in favour of the death penalty. Terminate the correct person.
I enjoy that you left that last bit vague, rietrot... Letting the reader decide if you meant the father, or the 12 year-old.
 

Bonywasawarrioraway

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Long term this could actually reduce the amount of drama around this issue because competition between states will motivate the direction these laws take over time. Popular ideas will spread and less popular ideas will get overturned by the natural evolution these things tend to take. Roe v. Wade just added fuel to the fire by further polarizing the debate and caused firmer heel digging which led to more moderate common sense positions being drowned out by the ensuing culture war tribalism.

Exactly the same thing is happening with the gun debate.

Most people support common sense restrictions, but you wouldn't know it because everything is presented as a choice between two extremes. To stray in any way from the extreme is to betray your tribe in the culture war, and so nobody is willing to be reasonable or moderate in the negotiation.
couldn't have said it better myself
 

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Conservative nutters such as yourself aren't able to grasp the nuance that a fetus =! a child.
The fact that you are able to liken the article of a mother bashing a child to death and a woman choosing not to have a fetus mature into a child is the problem with you lot.
Let's go ad hominem. Seems to be a default when the argument fails. Any level of human development is a human. The thought that it isn't a very modern construct of the liberal worldview
 

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You are discussing this in relation to abortion.


The Unborn Victims of Violence Act (Public Law 108-212) recognizes a "child in utero" as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[8] It applies only to certain offenses over which the United States government has jurisdiction, including certain crimes committed on federal properties, against certain federal officials and employees, and by members of the military, as well as certain crimes (including some acts of terrorism) which count as federal offenses even if outside the United States. The act explicitly provides that it may not "be construed to permit the prosecution" of any person in relation to consensual abortion, medical treatment of a mother or her fetus, or any woman with regard to her own fetus. It passed into law on April 1, 2004 and is codified under two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841), and the Uniform Code of Military Justice: Title 10, Chapter 22 §919a (Article 119a)
 

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Then the two of you should be front-and-center in the fight for free healthcare for all, paid maternity leave, free education, free school lunches... and don't even get me started on banning the automatic weapons that keep popping up to murder kids with in schools across the US.

Amirite?
I'm for anything that prevents murder
 

RiaX

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Enter blackmarket abortions. Woman's death rate is going to increase there.
 

AfricanTech

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2022 and in certain states in the USA women will face having to run the gauntlet of dangerous back street procedures.

Who would have imagined that the world could regress so quickly.
 
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