Just learnt the US were not the first on the Moon

[empirex]

Nope. When Alex Jones first began InfoWars (was actually another name back then) him and David Icke were tight like dried schit on arse hairs. They've since grown apart...

Ah ok, well I'm not sure about the 'Alex Jones early days'. What year was that about, got a source were he talks about aliens?

He started out as a libertarian Ron Paul type.

 

[DJ...]

He started out as a libertarian Ron Paul type.

He started out as a whack-job nutjob with his god-awful radio shows. I don't have a link, no. Most of his stuff sat behind a credit-card machine. I can assure you, I was one of the early fools who bought into his nonsense and he most certainly banged on about Credo Mutwa and the aliens. This was before he supposedly infiltrated the gathering of world leaders where they apparently sacrificed a goat or something along those lines...

 

[empirex]

He started out as a whack-job nutjob with his god-awful radio shows. I don't have a link, no. Most of his stuff sat behind a credit-card machine. I can assure you, I was one of the early fools who bought into his nonsense and he most certainly banged on about Credo Mutwa and the aliens. This was before he supposedly infiltrated the gathering of world leaders where they apparently sacrificed a goat or something along those lines...

I can't speak to his early years, but that is not what I hear on his show at all.

He has guests like Ron Paul and Gerald Celente discussing issues. A large majority of his callers are military, former military and those with family in the military. Talk about aliens and the like, no.

You can download all his movies for free if you like, his radio show is also free as are a number of other areas. I'm a $5.95 a month subscriber because I believe in what he is doing.

Ah, his infiltration of Bohemian Grove, here's the vid. There's a whole lead-in but go to 56:00, the point at which everyone goes to the 'Sacrifice of Care' ceremony.


[video=youtube;FpKdSvwYsrE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FpKdSvwYsrE#t=3374s[/video]

 

[DJ...]

Alex Jones makes Jim Marrs seem playful.

This is the guy who believes that Ridley Scott movies are the government's way of leaking information as its continued disinformation campaign. His history of claims are laughable and downright insulting to anyone willing to apply a smidgen of thought or research to the topic. It was the day that I questioned his nonsense about 9/11 that I found out he is a lying, manipulative fscktard whose only concern is Alex Jones' bank account...

 

[STS]

Russians were insane during the space race.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19142_5-soviet-space-programs-that-prove-russia-was-insane.html

 

[empirex]

Alex Jones makes Jim Marrs seem playful.

This is the guy who believes that Ridley Scott movies are the government's way of leaking information as its continued disinformation campaign. His history of claims are laughable and downright insulting to anyone willing to apply a smidgen of thought or research to the topic. It was the day that I questioned his nonsense about 9/11 that I found out he is a lying, manipulative fscktard whose only concern is Alex Jones' bank account...

Most of his claims have come true, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
He was right about 9/11 (he called it before it happened); he predicted that the measures implemented to catch the terrorists would be in turn be used on the American people -- that's happened; Obama's objection to NDAA was a smokescreen -- he signed it and insisted it went through, etc., etc., etc.

 

[wily me]

Most of his claims have come true, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
He was right about 9/11 (he called it before it happened); he predicted that the measures implemented to catch the terrorists would be in turn be used on the American people -- that's happened; Obama's objection to NDAA was a smokescreen -- he signed it and insisted it went through, etc., etc., etc.

Yeah, I also believe.............in the tokelosh.

 

[empirex]

Yeah, I also believe.............in the tokelosh.

Fool! I don't buy into the whole tokoloshe myth

http://media.2oceansvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tokoloshe.jpg

 

[DJ...]

Most of his claims have come true, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
He was right about 9/11 (he called it before it happened); he predicted that the measures implemented to catch the terrorists would be in turn be used on the American people -- that's happened; Obama's objection to NDAA was a smokescreen -- he signed it and insisted it went through, etc., etc., etc.

Here's a 20 page debunking of Alex Jones' Bohemian Grove. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/dark-secrets-inside-bohemian-grove/

Here's a 14 page debunking of The Order Of Death. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/the-order-of-death/

Here's a 31 page debunking of The Obama Deception. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/the-obama-deception/

Luckily I've been exposed to both sides so my bullschit detector is still operational...

 

[empirex]

Here's a 20 page debunking of Alex Jones' Bohemian Grove. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/dark-secrets-inside-bohemian-grove/

Here's a 14 page debunking of The Order Of Death. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/the-order-of-death/

Here's a 31 page debunking of The Obama Deception. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/the-obama-deception/

Luckily I've been exposed to both sides so my bullschit detector is still operational...

I hope you're right and he's wrong.

However I've also been exposed to both sides, and I think you might need to get your bullchit detector fixed though, it seems to be faulty.

This just in yesterday: Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America Download the document and read it for yourself.

And in case you hadn't figured it out -- THIS IS HUGE, it's MASSIVE, it's DEVASTATING, it's TERRIBLE.
But if it makes you feel better and comfortably numb to ignore it, choosing to see things as you hope they are, rather than as they truly are, that's your choice.

Alex Discussing it on RT TV:

[video=youtube;RcvvE2zHcn0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcvvE2zHcn0[/video]

 

[DJ...]

That same story (as in identical) has been doing the rounds since the 90s. From Alex Jones himself. These blokes sure do take their time, huh?

 

[empirex]

That same story (as in identical) has been doing the rounds since the 90s. From Alex Jones himself. These blokes sure do take their time, huh?

What's your point?

 

[DJ...]

What's your point?

That it is bullschit, spouted, supported, evidenced and continued by one man, who has been making the same claim for over a decade without it ever amounting to anything...

 

[empirex]

That it is bullschit, spouted, supported, evidenced and continued by one man, who has been making the same claim for over a decade without it ever amounting to anything...

Riiight, and RT news and the other is in Jones' pocket to right? Doing his bidding, I take it.

So documents aren't worth anything to you -- only when they start herding people into camps will you accept the textual version. An actual document outlining the camps, strategies and methods isn't worth anything to you.

Here's your problem:

Alex has been predicting and exposing their plans over the years.

The difference here is -- these are their plans now exposed. This is not Alex Jones making $hit up; these are actual documents.

Problem is you can't seperate the two -- use other sources apart from Alex Jones then like RT. It amazes me that people reject such devastating news based on personality.

 

[DJ...]

On personality? ROFL...

Ah, I used to be just as fervent as you about this sort of thing. How nostalgic...

 

[Nick333]

Riiight, and RT news and the other is in Jones' pocket to right? Doing his bidding, I take it.

So documents aren't worth anything to you -- only when they start herding people into camps will you accept the textual version. An actual document outlining the camps, strategies and methods isn't worth anything to you.

Here's your problem:

Alex has been predicting and exposing their plans over the years.

The difference here is -- these are their plans now exposed. This is not Alex Jones making $hit up; these are actual documents.

Problem is you can't seperate the two -- use other sources apart from Alex Jones then like RT. It amazes me that people reject such devastating news based on personality.

What part of that document outlines the US Armies re-education doctrine. I'll admit I haven't read it but I've gone through the contents page. The closest thing I could find to anything about re-education is a section on rehabilitation.

Incidentally this document was hardly leaked, it's freely available on two US military websites. I'm willing to guess that any well organised military in the world has documents similar to this one and have since at least WWII. Every sizeable conflict brings the need for interment and relocation of POWs and dislocated enemy populations.

 

[Nick333]

Jesus. Even the Infowars article says

The document makes it clear that the policies apply “within U.S. territory” and involve, “DOD support to U.S. civil authorities for domestic emergencies, and for designated law enforcement and other activities,” including “man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.”

For gods sake. Of course the military would have contingency plans for dealing with civilians in case of disasters. One would hope so, really.

The problem with lunatics is that they don't even speak the same language.

 

[DJ...]

What part of that document outlines the US Armies re-education doctrine. I'll admit I haven't read it but I've gone through the contents page. The closest thing I could find to anything about re-education is a section on rehabilitation.

Incidentally this document was hardly leaked, it's freely available on two US military websites. I'm willing to guess that any well organised military in the world has documents similar to this one and have since at least WWII. Every sizeable conflict brings the need for interment and relocation of POWs and dislocated enemy populations.

Why can't you just believe Alex Jones ffs? Oh Em Gee...

 

[Nick333]

Why can't you just believe Alex Jones ffs? Oh Em Gee...

Because I am capable of critical thought?

 

[DJ...]

Because I am capable of critical thought?

Well how surprised are you gonna be when the secret societies, who are actually run by the British and German royalty, eventually take control of the governments around the world, place you in a reconditioning camp to learn "their" way (taught to them by ancient aliens), insert tracking devices in your body (because you're incredibly important, of course), and start...wait for it...marketing relevant products to your cellphone.

Don't say you weren't warned...