Just learnt the US were not the first on the Moon

[empirex]

On personality? ROFL...

Ah, I used to be just as fervent as you about this sort of thing. How nostalgic...

So there is no document outlining Reeducation Camps for Americans?

So no NDAA - that Obama signed on a Sunday at midnight if I'm not mistaken; a bill which he earlier had promised NOT to sign - allowing the government to detain (without cause) and kill US citizens at will?

Wake up -- if ANY of the legislation that is being passed in the US were to be passed in South Africa you would have an absolute riot on our hands, and rightfully so.

 

[DJ...]

So there is no document outlining Reeducation Camps for Americans?

So no NDAA

I guess since hearing this for years and nothing ever coming of it, and having since realised that Alex Jones is a self-centred moron, I really don't give a hoot.

And what I am saying is that there is no risk of anyone being posted off to Re-education camps at all. That is absurd...

 

[waynegohl]

If Alex Jones has been talking about this since the 90's, has the story changed much or has he been updating it since then and has, what he's been saying, come true and will we see "I told you so" type message from him?
If what he has been saying turns out to be the truth, would it give credibility to other information he has/is giving out?

 

[DJ...]

The story changed so much in the short time that I was a PrisonPlanet member that I couldn't believe the nonsense any longer. At one point it was intended for mind control and an extension of the MK Ultra nonsense. Then it was a brainwashing exercise intended to convince Americans to begin WW3. Then it was a British experiment on psychics and remote viewing. Then it was...argh.

Who cares? It is bullschit...

 

[waynegohl]

hmmm, as much as i like to see/hear what these guys are saying when I watched part the video posted above I had a feeling he was really putting on a show of sorts, just his mannerisms and tone and body language but that might just be how he is.

Where is Michael Moore these days?

 

[DJ...]

Most con-artists have to use showmanship to convince their audience...

 

[supersunbird]

Well duh. The Autobots were the first.

Nope.... Manamarak was first...

 

[waynegohl]

Next will be FEMA camps on the Moon and Mars.

 

[empirex]

I guess since hearing this for years and nothing ever coming of it, and having since realised that Alex Jones is a self-centred moron, I really don't give a hoot.

And what I am saying is that there is no risk of anyone being posted off to Re-education camps at all. That is absurd...

I hope you're right..

But like I said, who gives a $hit about Alex Jones as a person, his message is playing out before our eyes; what was once speculation is now reality. The measures and laws introduced to fight terrorism are now being turned on the US population.

- There's a reason the Department of Homeland Security has purchased Bullet Resistant Booths, already settings up 9 300 around the country.

- There's a reason the Department of Homeland Security recently purchased 450 000 000 rounds of hollow point bullets for domestic use, more than one bullet for every person in the United States ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE).

These rounds cannot be used outside of the US.
These rounds are not used for target practise.

Keep in mind that "in active battle operations in Iraq, ammunition is expended at the rate of 5.5 million rounds per month".
Government doesn't just buy 450 million rounds of ammo on a whim, they plan for their spending.

So this effectively means the US government has purchased enough ammo (domestic use only) to wage a 7-year war within it's own borders.

 

[DJ...]

What are these reasons?

 

[empirex]

If Alex Jones has been talking about this since the 90's, has the story changed much or has he been updating it since then and has, what he's been saying, come true and will we see "I told you so" type message from him?

He's not that kind of guy Although I'm sure he's done it many times to make a point or illustrate how he has been right over the years.

If what he has been saying turns out to be the truth, would it give credibility to other information he has/is giving out?

Of course.

And of course they get things wrong; no one has said otherwise. But most of Jones' predictions have come to pass.
For instance Alex predicted 9/11.

Now I know what you're saying -- how the **** can he predict anything, right. On what does he base these predictions and make such claims.

Well insiders, leaked news and of course the US government's own actions of course. In particular, in part was Dick Cheney's 2000 paper, titled Rebuilding America's Defenses which noted that "only a 'new Pearl Harbor' would enable the military and defense policy transformations the group desired to rapidly take place".

The world isn't made of sugar and candy. More often than not, men (and women these days) desiring power and money become leaders. So it has been throughout human history, nothing has changed.

 

[DJ...]

I was a member of Prison Planet on Sep 11 2001. I didn't see a single prediction about it. There were vague predictions of global doom (which didn't come to pass by the way) but no Sep 11 predictions. Psychics use the same techniques in their scams...

 

[empirex]

I was a member of Prison Planet on Sep 11 2001. I didn't see a single prediction about it. There were vague predictions of global doom (which didn't come to pass by the way) but no Sep 11 predictions. Psychics use the same techniques in their scams...

Like I say, I hope you're right.. and I don't mind being called a loon if it turns out to be wrong.

For a long time I too never thought 9/11 was an inside job, only about 2 years ago I changed my view.
I actually argued against people on forums like this very one -- yet looking back I would argued from an emotional stance, ie. the US government would not do this to it's own people. I dismissed evidence from that basis, heart over head.
I just couldn't process the fact that the government would do that to it's own people.

But of course the US government has proven in the past that it's more than willing to sacrifice it's own citizens to serve a political agenda. Look up the USS Liberty Incident and see just what morally detestable acts 'men in power' will do to effect their goals.

 

[Nick333]

Well how surprised are you gonna be when the secret societies, who are actually run by the British and German royalty, eventually take control of the governments around the world, place you in a reconditioning camp to learn "their" way (taught to them by ancient aliens), insert tracking devices in your body (because you're incredibly important, of course), and start...wait for it...marketing relevant products to your cellphone.

Don't say you weren't warned...

You've got me there. They're already sending penis enlargement and viagra ads to my email account.

 

[wily me]

I would never have believed people can be so stupid as to believing in the conspiracy theories and adhere to those notions as fact. How sad humanity became.

 

[empirex]

I would never have believed people can be so stupid as to believing in the conspiracy theories and adhere to those notions as fact. How sad humanity became.

So you still believe there are Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?

 

[Nick333]

So you still believe there are Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?

Right, because if a politician told a lie once the government is out to get us.

 

[wily me]

So you still believe there are Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?

How did you get to that stupid deduction?

The fact that there was scud missiles and chemical weapons was used in the North was evidence that such weapons existed or that theier regime had such notions, whatever happened with the rest of the arsenal if ever there was more I do not know and do not care, the fact the a devil was uncrowned is enough for me. I am more concerned about the local travesties than International US conspiracy bullsheet

 

[empirex]

How did you get to that stupid deduction?

Bush and Blair went into Iraq under the pretence of a preemptive strike, to prevent Sadam from developing (or already developed) and so using those weapons of mass destruction.
Do you remember Colin Powell doing his best to sell the WMD's nonsense to the UN Council!!!?

How do I come to that conclusion -- if there were no WMD's (as we now know there weren't) then the US and UK government conspired to go into Iraq under false pretences -- ie. that's a frikken conspiracy buddy!!!! Wake up.

The fact that there was scud missiles and chemical weapons was used in the North was evidence that such weapons existed or that theier regime had such notions,

Weapons that were destroyed years ago in the first Gulf War!!! You're promoting punishment for past events? Well send in the troops to SA then.....

whatever happened with the rest of the arsenal if ever there was more I do not know and do not care, the fact the a devil was uncrowned is enough for me. I am more concerned about the local travesties than International US conspiracy bullsheet

You of course don't realise the scope of this do you. You are effectively giving the US carte blanche to invade whatever country they see fit as long as a "devil was uncrowned". What if Zuma, Mugabe or any other leader around the world is considered by them to be a "devil".
Do you know that the US passed a law in congress based on the Kony 2012 bull$hit.....

I would say that world financial meltdown has global (and local) ramifications wouldn't you I fear if it wasn't for our apartheid-era Exchange Control Laws, South Africa would have felt the 2008 collapse a lot worse. Ah well at least those apartheid bums done something right....

Please tell me you're not like this guy (at 1:17:25)

[video=youtube;vrXgLhkv21Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vrXgLhkv21Y#t=4644s[/video]

 

[wily me]

..............lots of BS..............[/video]

Do you even read what you post? You said "you still believe". How can you deduce from my post what I believe about anything

I would never have believed people can be so stupid as to believing in the conspiracy theories and adhere to those notions as fact. How sad humanity became.

which was in response to the 911 comments and then you jump on the old Iraq WMD BS that is really old and worn by now?

You wake up and grow some man. You are fast becoming a joke!