Just learnt the US were not the first on the Moon

[empirex]

Right, because if a politician told a lie once the government is out to get us.

Depends on the lie.

 

[empirex]

Do you even read what you post? You said "you still believe". How can you deduce from my post what I believe about anything which was in response to the 911 comments and then you jump on the old Iraq WMD BS that is really old and worn by now?

Note the question mark at the end of the sentence? Yes, that's right it was phrased as a question

You wake up and grow some man. You are fast becoming a joke!

Ah the old tried and tested ad hominem
Ignore the questions and attack the man. Congratulations, you're well on your way to enrolling in Malema's soon to be opened The Art of Misdirection and Obfuscation School.

 

[wily me]

Note the question mark at the end of the sentence? Yes, that's right it was phrased as a question



Ah the old tried and tested ad hominem
Ignore the questions and attack the man. Congratulations, you're well on your way to enrolling in Malema's soon to be opened The Art of Misdirection and Obfuscation School.

I would rather endure Malemas Art of Misdirection and Obfuscation School than your school of anti US and Bullsheet conspiracies?

 

[waynegohl]

It seems that only people on Wall street can predict the future and other people not. They say there's gonna be some k@k in the Middle East and all over a sudden people are buying shares and the price of crude oil goes up. Let ALex Jones and his ilk say there's gonna be a war in America and he is called a nutjob.

 

[empirex]

I would rather endure Malemas Art of Misdirection and Obfuscation School than your school of anti US and Bullsheet conspiracies?

Anti US??? You don't know me very well
And calling something Bullsheet doesn't make it so, when you actually feeling debating the facts on the ground rather than name calling, let me know

 

[DJ...]

It seems that only people on Wall street can predict the future and other people not. They say there's gonna be some k@k in the Middle East and all over a sudden people are buying shares and the price of crude oil goes up. Let ALex Jones and his ilk say there's gonna be a war in America and he is called a nutjob.

Wayne, please stop buying into this nonsense for the sake of it. All securities markets take a position like this at any given point. Right now the likelihood of war is being priced into the futures market as we speak...

 

[empirex]

It seems that only people on Wall street can predict the future and other people not. They say there's gonna be some k@k in the Middle East and all over a sudden people are buying shares and the price of crude oil goes up. Let ALex Jones and his ilk say there's gonna be a war in America and he is called a nutjob.

Yip, it's called normalcy bias. Just because something hasn't happened for a while, doesn't mean it won't happen. If you don't believe Alex Jones, ask Ron Paul (you know, that guy running for the Republican nomination and gaining huge momentum right now), he appears on Alex's show quite often, so does Gerald Celente, the world's top trend forecaster for a reason -- he get's it right every time.

16 trillion dollar debt isn't just going to go away.
Japan and China bypassing the dollar as reserve currency (with BRIC to follow suit).... isn't happening on Mars.
A government doesn't buy 450 000 000 rounds of hollow-point ammunition for domestic use for no reason.
They don't sign Soviet-style bills into law like NDAA, that allows the government to indefinitely detain and execute US citizens, for no reason.
They never repealed the Posse Comitatus Act in it's entirety in 2008 for no reason.
They aren't setting up bullet-proof checkpoints countrywide for no reason.
They aren't searching 4-year old kids in wheelchairs at airports for nothing.
etc, etc.

If any of these measures were being implemented in YOUR country, how would you feel?
Just because it's a world away doesn't make it any less real.... or mean it won't have a profound impact on us living here in South Africa.
Anyway I've said my piece.

 

[waynegohl]

Wayne, please stop buying into this nonsense for the sake of it. All securities markets take a position like this at any given point. Right now the likelihood of war is being priced into the futures market as we speak...

I hear you DJ but sometimes we see things and hear things that don't make sense and someone comes along as says "this is whats happening....." and they make some sense then another person turns around and says "bullsheet, this is whats really happening" and they make sense but both cannot be right or wrong. Where the problem comes in is that no matter who you lend an ear too you will always be called a nutjob by both sides followers.

 

[DJ...]

Well, no. As someone directly involved in the market, I can assure you that my explanation doesn't make me a nutjob. LOL.

However Alex Jones and the like have sweet fsckall idea about the financial market, and therefore you get these cuckoo ideas and explanations fermenting in the arseholes of these loons...

 

[waynegohl]

but sometimes the aroma from the arseholes smell sooo sweet we need to turn around for another look.

 

[empirex]

However Alex Jones and the like have sweet fsckall idea about the financial market, and therefore you get these cuckoo ideas and explanations fermenting in the arseholes of these loons...

Seriously man? I take that applies to Ron Paul and Gerald Celente who espouse similar views to Alex?

 

[DJ...]

Ron Paul?

Another whackjob conspiracy nutjob. And yes, Ron Paul is financially illiterate and is a moron who has been debunked on countless occasions. His Watergate and Iraq nonsense for example has been wholly debunked and yet he still goes on as if it means nothing to the man. The sign of a complete fscking loon...

Gerald Celente

Are we talking about the same guy who believes that The Obama Deception (which I posted a complete 33 page debunking thereof) is the single most important film in recent years? That moron? The guy who has been making wild claims (considering it is his job to do so) for 25 years? That idiot?

 

[empirex]

Another whackjob conspiracy nutjob. And yes, Ron Paul is financially illiterate and is a moron who has been debunked on countless occasions. His Watergate and Iraq nonsense for example has been wholly debunked and yet he still goes on as if it means nothing to the man. The sign of a complete fscking loon...

Are we talking about the same guy who believes that The Obama Deception (which I posted a complete 33 page debunking thereof) is the single most important film in recent years? That moron? The guy who has been making wild claims (considering it is his job to do so) for 25 years? That idiot?

Yeah nevermind man, I thought you were capable of rational debate... yet here you are mouthing off about a man's track record you haven't the first clue about

Let's just say there's a reason Gerald Celente's Trends Journal is the best in the market, and why financial experts look to him -- because he get's it right.
But hey when did the facts ever matter!! when you can just call someone an idiot!!! I'm sorry you're too much man.. insert that head a little further in the sand, maybe you'll find some oil down there.

I think I'll take Gerald's stunning track record like predicting the recent 2008 housing collapse, over your ad hoc insults anyday...
Bottom line is: he get's it right. Yet you denounce his financial wisdom based on his opinion of the Obama Deception??? Please buddy... no, perhaps you need to take note of his opinions about the Obama Deception and financial markets, and where they're headed. But whatever, no doubt you'll just insult Gerald and myself some more. Good luck with that.

[video=youtube;sR-z1i2ihec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-z1i2ihec[/video]

Just some events he has predicted:
"Occupy Wall Street" -- 1997, Trends 2000 by Gerald Celente
"Off With Their Heads" (Global spread of rebellions) -- Oct. 2010, Trends Journal
The "Great Recession" (to begin in 2007) -- Jan. 2004, Trends Journal
The "Panic of '08" (financial meltdown) -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
1987 Stock Market Crash -- Jan. 1987, T.R.I. Press Release
Gold Bull Run to Begin -- Dec. 2001, Trends Journal
The Coming "Greatest Depression" -- Dec. 2008, Trends Journal
The 2nd American Revolution -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
The "Groping Trend" (Stripping Americans of their Dignity) -- Nov. 21 2010, FOX News; Nov. 19 2010, Trend Alert
Real Estate Peak - Decline to Follow -- Dec. 2004, Trends Journal
Dot-com Bust (to hit by second quarter of 2000) -- Oct. 1999, Trends Journal
Asian Financial Crisis -- 1997, Trends 2000 by Gerald Celente
Pre 9/11 warning -- Dec. 14, 2000, USA Today
Tax Protests -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
"Economic 9/11" (prediction of Sept. 2008 financial calamity) -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
Credit Crisis to Hit Financial Markets (by end of 2007) -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Decline of U.S. Automakers -- Oct. 2005, Trends Journal
Gourmet Coffee -- 1988, Trend Tracking by Gerald Celente
"Clean Foods"/Organic trend -- 1988, Trend Tracking by Gerald Celente
"Technotribalism" (rise in social networking) -- Oct. 1993, Trends Journal
The New Crusades -- Oct. 1993, Trends Journal
"Too-Big-to-Fail" trend -- Dec. 1998, Trends Journal
The Ghost Malling of America -- 1997, Trends 2000 by Gerald Celente
"Wired and Out of Touch" (techno-addiction) -- Oct. 1999, Trends Journal
U.S. to Lose Iraq War (one month before the war began) -- Feb. 2003, Trend Alert
2001 Recession/"Recession Proofing" (how to prepare) -- Dec. 2000, Trends Journal
Latino Market to Boom -- 1988, Trend Tracking by Gerald Celente
The Anti-Americanism trend -- Dec. 2000, Trends Journal
Seccessionist Movements -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Microfarming -- March 1994, Trends Journal
"Little People Squeeze" (squeezing taxpayers for every last cent) -- Dec. 2008, Trends Journal
Internet TV -- Dec. 2005, Trends Journal
McMansions to Boarding Houses -- June 1997, Trends Journal
"Back to the Land" trend -- March 1995, Trends Journal
Medical Tourism -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Recession/Depression Chic -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Uptrend in Security/Home Protection Services -- Oct. 2006, Trends Journal
Rise in Healthcare Industry Jobs -- Oct. 2006, Trends Journal
"Involuntary Simplicity" (downsizing trend) -- Dec. 1995, Trends Journal
"Buy Local" trend -- Oct. 1993, Trends Journal

 

[DJ...]

Celente - the guy whose research amounts to him quoting bogus Abe Lincoln quotes - meticulous researcher, that guy. He isn't taken seriously by anyone. He has been wrong more often than a dyslexic at a spelling bee. Like the time he predicted that there would be another American revolution by 2012 unless there was a technological introduction akin to that of fire. That guy? Are we talking about the same moron here?

He predicts doom absolutely every single year and has been found out time and time again to have removed all discrepancies to fit his nonsensical worldview. He is a nutjob. There is no such thing as a "trends examiner" by the way - he made that title up for himself and has done nothing to prove his worth in actual forecasting.

For some time JP Morgan used his "research" in their single stock forecasts. I think that relationship lasted about a year before he was given the boot...

 

[Ou grote]

Yeah nevermind man, I thought you were capable of rational debate... yet here you are mouthing off about a man's track record you haven't the first clue about

Let's just say there's a reason Gerald Celente's Trends Journal is the best in the market, and why financial experts look to him -- because he get's it right.
But hey when did the facts ever matter!! when you can just call someone an idiot!!! I'm sorry you're too much man.. insert that head a little further in the sand, maybe you'll find some oil down there.

I think I'll take Gerald's stunning track record like predicting the recent 2008 housing collapse, over your ad hoc insults anyday...
Bottom line is: he get's it right. Yet you denounce his financial wisdom based on his opinion of the Obama Deception??? Please buddy... no, perhaps you need to take note of his opinions about the Obama Deception and financial markets, and where they're headed. But whatever, no doubt you'll just insult Gerald and myself some more. Good luck with that.

[video=youtube;sR-z1i2ihec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-z1i2ihec[/video]

Just some events he has predicted:
"Occupy Wall Street" -- 1997, Trends 2000 by Gerald Celente
"Off With Their Heads" (Global spread of rebellions) -- Oct. 2010, Trends Journal
The "Great Recession" (to begin in 2007) -- Jan. 2004, Trends Journal
The "Panic of '08" (financial meltdown) -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
1987 Stock Market Crash -- Jan. 1987, T.R.I. Press Release
Gold Bull Run to Begin -- Dec. 2001, Trends Journal
The Coming "Greatest Depression" -- Dec. 2008, Trends Journal
The 2nd American Revolution -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
The "Groping Trend" (Stripping Americans of their Dignity) -- Nov. 21 2010, FOX News; Nov. 19 2010, Trend Alert
Real Estate Peak - Decline to Follow -- Dec. 2004, Trends Journal
Dot-com Bust (to hit by second quarter of 2000) -- Oct. 1999, Trends Journal
Asian Financial Crisis -- 1997, Trends 2000 by Gerald Celente
Pre 9/11 warning -- Dec. 14, 2000, USA Today
Tax Protests -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
"Economic 9/11" (prediction of Sept. 2008 financial calamity) -- Dec. 2007, Trends Journal
Credit Crisis to Hit Financial Markets (by end of 2007) -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Decline of U.S. Automakers -- Oct. 2005, Trends Journal
Gourmet Coffee -- 1988, Trend Tracking by Gerald Celente
"Clean Foods"/Organic trend -- 1988, Trend Tracking by Gerald Celente
"Technotribalism" (rise in social networking) -- Oct. 1993, Trends Journal
The New Crusades -- Oct. 1993, Trends Journal
"Too-Big-to-Fail" trend -- Dec. 1998, Trends Journal
The Ghost Malling of America -- 1997, Trends 2000 by Gerald Celente
"Wired and Out of Touch" (techno-addiction) -- Oct. 1999, Trends Journal
U.S. to Lose Iraq War (one month before the war began) -- Feb. 2003, Trend Alert
2001 Recession/"Recession Proofing" (how to prepare) -- Dec. 2000, Trends Journal
Latino Market to Boom -- 1988, Trend Tracking by Gerald Celente
The Anti-Americanism trend -- Dec. 2000, Trends Journal
Seccessionist Movements -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Microfarming -- March 1994, Trends Journal
"Little People Squeeze" (squeezing taxpayers for every last cent) -- Dec. 2008, Trends Journal
Internet TV -- Dec. 2005, Trends Journal
McMansions to Boarding Houses -- June 1997, Trends Journal
"Back to the Land" trend -- March 1995, Trends Journal
Medical Tourism -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Recession/Depression Chic -- Dec. 2006, Trends Journal
Uptrend in Security/Home Protection Services -- Oct. 2006, Trends Journal
Rise in Healthcare Industry Jobs -- Oct. 2006, Trends Journal
"Involuntary Simplicity" (downsizing trend) -- Dec. 1995, Trends Journal
"Buy Local" trend -- Oct. 1993, Trends Journal

Wow! That guy must be the best hedge fund manager of all time!!!!!!

I have to just believe everything he says!!!!!

How rich must he be?

Does he predict lotto numbers?

 

[empirex]

Wow! That guy must be the best hedge fund manager of all time!!!!!!

I have to just believe everything he says!!!!!

How rich must he be?

Does he predict lotto numbers?

Only if they're fixed