KPMG South Africa apologises for scandals, seeks second chance

Ancalagon

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They were criminally negligent and should be charged with all sorts of crimes including fraud and perjury.

How can you be an auditor if you are not trustworthy? Just shut the whole company down and charge everyone involved.
 

Zukat

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The only second chance they should get is to go to prison for the criminal acts they committed.
 

yebocan

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“misdeeds” ...hahahahaha....****ing the country over while coining it, yeah sure....mis ****en deeds
 

Cius

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No, going soft on this would only encourage it more. You guys need to learn this lesson periodically. I guess Arthur Anderson was too long ago. You are next. Face the consequences, die out in SA, and perhaps that will keep the rest honest for a period of time.
 

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The company is one of a number of international firms that have apologized for their conduct during the nine-year rule of Zuma, which ended in February, during which time corruption at state companies became endemic.

This is more worrying. Is everyone just corrupt? Business first, ethics last?
 

Cray

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Nope, go and join Arthur Anderson in auditing hell.
 

Arthur

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Baddies who did this should be punished.

But how grim for >90% of the people who were doing a good job, slogging their hearts out, and like the rest of us just trying to do their best. Doesn't seem right that they end up reduced, jobless and tainted because of the sins of others.
 
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Bryn

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Two issues with this request:

1. Would set a disturbing precedent
2. Is pointless due to trust not being something that is arbitrarily restored at will. The entire point of auditors is to have a trustworthy opinion on critically important matters too technical for the layman to evaluate. Once you've totally betrayed such a high level of trust, it ain't coming back.
 

Zoomzoom

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Baddies who did this should be punished.

But how grim for >90% of the people who were doing a good job, slogging their hearts out, and like the rest of us just trying to do their best. Doesn't seem right that they end up reduced, jobless and tainted because of the sins of others.


This is why you don't comply when your company / boss / employer asks you to do something shady, because do NOT try to tell me that people didn't know.
 

Arthur

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This is why you don't comply when your company / boss / employer asks you to do something shady, because do NOT try to tell me that people didn't know.
I suspect 90% of the people working there didn't have a clue anything shady was being done. Not because they didn't care or closed their eyes, but because they were simply not involved in any way but working with other customers.
 
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