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[wizardofid]

BS
Inequality existed before slaves were taken and before people established posts in Africa. Are you suggesting that Africans were equal to Europe before that point?

Lets ask you a question, what did isolated African tribes use for money in the south coast regions, do you think the Khoisan cared about money ?inequality wasn't a thing in most African tribes, if you don't have the concept of money, loans, banks ect. they did have some concept of wealth in the form of land and cattle ect.But this didn't create much inequality or wealth disparity.Technically the larger tribes would either assimilate or kill smaller tribes, and with being nomadic in nature for a large part of history wealth to them was entirely a western concept.Most of them have never seen a white man before.

The west coast of Africa used the concept of shells as a form of money, with their close proximity to other cultures, and their development being far ahead of other regions which were pretty much isolated for the most part of recorded history, inequality definitely reared its ugly head there, to what extend and to that of western cultures, it was likely in it's infancy. Inequality already existed in western countries at least for 10 000 years well before settlers arrived in africa.To put simple most African tribes, had zero concept of western money ideals and wealth concepts were entirely different to that of western nations.

Simply put there was little or no inequality between isolated tribes that haven't yet been introduced to western culture, compared to western nations, which already had a large divide.Were they better off, in terms of inequality most definitely, they were after all far less developed in general. But we are talking about wealth inequality, social standing within a tribe is entirely different debate, and most definitely some members were less equal.In the case of the Khoisan and general harsh environment and nomadic ways, inequality, with regards to social or wealth played very little importance.

science and technology brought about inequality, care to show me 8th century science and technology in isolated regions of Africa, before first contact, that rival that of western nations, I will happily print out 20 pages on this thread and used it as toilet paper. Were Africans better off, by western standards, no, by their own standard, they couldn't give a hoot.

perhaps the mere suggestion of doing some research.

 

[rambo919]

Inequality did not exist before the white man came before no one had anything.....

Is that not something white supremacists say?

 

[Ponderer]

I did ask you in my nicest alabamian accent whether or not you are one of them gender fluid folks ? Seems the joke is lost on you but okay. Lets play your game. You could be the female reincartion of Elvis Presley, or so you say.You could be whomever you want to be, whether you want to identify as a rock, or a space alien from the former planet known as Pluto, I really couldn't be bothered what you want to call your self.I am quite happy to call you whatever sedimentary rock formation you want be.

You sober?
You make no sense.

 

[wizardofid]

lol. This guy is just next level special.

Uses multiple ad homs while refusing to answer anything, but gets triggered by someone saying the problem is generalizations.

Can't make this **** up.

Um no not really, I don't get triggered, I am not 5 anymore.I have the free choice whether or not you deserve a reaction or reply.If you going to troll or make a stupid remark. I am entirely able to say oh well so be it, don't have to waste bandwidth on that.Call it immature , call it whatever you like, I neither take offense or give offense, there is always someone worthwhile to engage with, why waste time on people being petty, really pretty simple.Out of mind, out of sight.If you can't be bothered in conversing and resort to striking out text and reply "fixed". Do I need to elaborate. It isn't a particular difficult concept to grasp, even for you, right, guess not.It is a polite way of saying, no I don't want to talk about my cars extended warranty.

But considering no one has actually bothered in replying with an opinion or pointed to research or articles and disprove any notion or concepts, I might have had and having answered or elaborated on questions that isn't intetionally trolling I have clearly refused to answer questions.That high horse you are on, do you need help getting down, or can I get you a step. ?

 

[Ponderer]

Lol. Okay a thicc boy. You do know it can mean a person, of native American origin, it could mean a person of Asian decent, "He is from polish decent, the race of polish people."
Race doesn't describe skin color, it is a collective noun, it describes a group of people, it is essentially a neutral word that describes a group of people anywhere in world. So your question whether or not it is limited to race makes zero sense.As race can literally mean any ethnicity anywhere in the world. Race by definition doesn't imply a specific race, gender, or species. Your question doesn't compute.


Do I have to answer more dumb questions ? I think not.

LOL @ Race by definition doesn't imply a specific race.
You must surely be drunk.

 

[Emjay]

Um no not really, I don't get triggered, I am not 5 anymore.I have the free choice whether or not you deserve a reaction or reply.If you going to troll or make a stupid remark. I am entirely able to say oh well so be it, don't have to waste bandwidth on that.Call it immature , call it whatever you like, I neither take offense or give offense, there is always someone worthwhile to engage with, why waste time on people being petty, really pretty simple.Out of mind, out of sight.If you can't be bothered in conversing and resort to striking out text and reply "fixed". Do I need to elaborate. It isn't a particular difficult concept to grasp, even for you, right, guess not.It is a polite way of saying, no I don't want to talk about my cars extended warranty.

But considering no one has actually bothered in replying with an opinion or pointed to research or articles and disprove any notion or concepts, I might have had and having answered or elaborated on questions that isn't intetionally trolling I have clearly refused to answer questions.That high horse you are on, do you need help getting down, or can I get you a step. ?

You talk about politeness and debating in good faith when you have demonstrated none of that?

 

[Ponderer]

Lets ask you a question, what did isolated African tribes use for money in the south coast regions, do you think the Khoisan cared about money ?inequality wasn't a thing in most African tribes, if you don't have the concept of money, loans, banks ect. they did have some concept of wealth in the form of land and cattle ect.But this didn't create much inequality or wealth disparity.Technically the larger tribes would either assimilate or kill smaller tribes, and with being nomadic in nature for a large part of history wealth to them was entirely a western concept.Most of them have never seen a white man before.

The west coast of Africa used the concept of shells as a form of money, with their close proximity to other cultures, and their development being far ahead of other regions which were pretty much isolated for the most part of recorded history, inequality definitely reared its ugly head there, to what extend and to that of western cultures, it was likely in it's infancy. Inequality already existed in western countries at least for 10 000 years well before settlers arrived in africa.To put simple most African tribes, had zero concept of western money ideals and wealth concepts were entirely different to that of western nations.

Simply put there was little or no inequality between isolated tribes that haven't yet been introduced to western culture, compared to western nations, which already had a large divide.Were they better off, in terms of inequality most definitely, they were after all far less developed in general. But we are talking about wealth inequality, social standing within a tribe is entirely different debate, and most definitely some members were less equal.In the case of the Khoisan and general harsh environment and nomadic ways, inequality, with regards to social or wealth played very little importance.

science and technology brought about inequality, care to show me 8th century science and technology in isolated regions of Africa, before first contact, that rival that of western nations, I will happily print out 20 pages on this thread and used it as toilet paper. Were Africans better off, by western standards, no, by their own standard, they couldn't give a hoot.

perhaps the mere suggestion of doing some research.

What is your point!!!!
You keep posting stuff without making any point.

 

[supersunbird]

Lets ask you a question, what did isolated African tribes use for money in the south coast regions, do you think the Khoisan cared about money ?inequality wasn't a thing in most African tribes, if you don't have the concept of money, loans, banks ect. they did have some concept of wealth in the form of land and cattle ect.But this didn't create much inequality or wealth disparity.Technically the larger tribes would either assimilate or kill smaller tribes, and with being nomadic in nature for a large part of history wealth to them was entirely a western concept.Most of them have never seen a white man before.

The west coast of Africa used the concept of shells as a form of money, with their close proximity to other cultures, and their development being far ahead of other regions which were pretty much isolated for the most part of recorded history, inequality definitely reared its ugly head there, to what extend and to that of western cultures, it was likely in it's infancy. Inequality already existed in western countries at least for 10 000 years well before settlers arrived in africa.To put simple most African tribes, had zero concept of western money ideals and wealth concepts were entirely different to that of western nations.

Simply put there was little or no inequality between isolated tribes that haven't yet been introduced to western culture, compared to western nations, which already had a large divide.Were they better off, in terms of inequality most definitely, they were after all far less developed in general. But we are talking about wealth inequality, social standing within a tribe is entirely different debate, and most definitely some members were less equal.In the case of the Khoisan and general harsh environment and nomadic ways, inequality, with regards to social or wealth played very little importance.

science and technology brought about inequality, care to show me 8th century science and technology in isolated regions of Africa, before first contact, that rival that of western nations, I will happily print out 20 pages on this thread and used it as toilet paper. Were Africans better off, by western standards, no, by their own standard, they couldn't give a hoot.

perhaps the mere suggestion of doing some research.

The inequality that existed in "western" aka European countries 10 000 years ago (aka 8000 BC) would have been exactly the same as what existed in your African scenarios, so unsure what you are on about there. About 7000 years ago (5000 BC) the Sumerians got some civilization things going in the middle east. About 5000 years ago (aka 3000 BC) Egyptians got some civilization going in Africa. Greece did civilization things starting about 3000 years ago (1000BC). Later came the Romans (Italian peninsula) and they finally spread some civilization into the rest of barbaric Europe.

Back to the inequality that would have existed in pre colonization Africa and pre civilization Europe (way later than your 10 000 years), the strongest (and most ruthless?) men would likely rule (the clan, the village, the tribe, the kingdom), so there was that inequality, rarely did women rule. So inequality is part of the human condition.

 

[Vrotappel]

Lets ask you a question, what did isolated African tribes use for money in the south coast regions, do you think the Khoisan cared about money ?inequality wasn't a thing in most African tribes, if you don't have the concept of money, loans, banks ect. they did have some concept of wealth in the form of land and cattle ect.But this didn't create much inequality or wealth disparity.Technically the larger tribes would either assimilate or kill smaller tribes, and with being nomadic in nature for a large part of history wealth to them was entirely a western concept.Most of them have never seen a white man before.

The west coast of Africa used the concept of shells as a form of money, with their close proximity to other cultures, and their development being far ahead of other regions which were pretty much isolated for the most part of recorded history, inequality definitely reared its ugly head there, to what extend and to that of western cultures, it was likely in it's infancy. Inequality already existed in western countries at least for 10 000 years well before settlers arrived in africa.To put simple most African tribes, had zero concept of western money ideals and wealth concepts were entirely different to that of western nations.

Simply put there was little or no inequality between isolated tribes that haven't yet been introduced to western culture, compared to western nations, which already had a large divide.Were they better off, in terms of inequality most definitely, they were after all far less developed in general. But we are talking about wealth inequality, social standing within a tribe is entirely different debate, and most definitely some members were less equal.In the case of the Khoisan and general harsh environment and nomadic ways, inequality, with regards to social or wealth played very little importance.

science and technology brought about inequality, care to show me 8th century science and technology in isolated regions of Africa, before first contact, that rival that of western nations, I will happily print out 20 pages on this thread and used it as toilet paper. Were Africans better off, by western standards, no, by their own standard, they couldn't give a hoot.

perhaps the mere suggestion of doing some research.

So when looking at pure inequality they are much better of than ever before.

I just like that when something does not fit your narrative you brush it away as if it does not exist.

At least you now have to retract your viewpoint that someone else made them in-equal.

By your own definition of inequality it did exist between them and Europeans they were simply not aware of it.

I do sense though that your big problem is inequality itself. I have news for you, it has always existed and it will always exist. People are not born equal and nothing can ever make them equal. We all have different abilities, ambitions, drives, etc. A world where all is equal will never exist. If it could I'd be playing pro-golf.

 

[The Voice]

Still trying to figure out what a white kid in America's self-defence case has to do with sub-Saharan Africa 10000 years ago...

 

[Emjay]

This thread has gotten so far off topic. The Philosophy Section is here --> https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/forums/philosophical-debates.149/. Please make use of this to carry on with whatever you are trying to say, @wizardofid.

Back to the topic at hand:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461773030087004164

It's always the same people spreading absolute garbage.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Lets ask you a question, what did isolated African tribes use for money in the south coast regions, do you think the Khoisan cared about money ?inequality wasn't a thing in most African tribes, if you don't have the concept of money, loans, banks ect. they did have some concept of wealth in the form of land and cattle ect.But this didn't create much inequality or wealth disparity.Technically the larger tribes would either assimilate or kill smaller tribes, and with being nomadic in nature for a large part of history wealth to them was entirely a western concept.Most of them have never seen a white man before.

The west coast of Africa used the concept of shells as a form of money, with their close proximity to other cultures, and their development being far ahead of other regions which were pretty much isolated for the most part of recorded history, inequality definitely reared its ugly head there, to what extend and to that of western cultures, it was likely in it's infancy. Inequality already existed in western countries at least for 10 000 years well before settlers arrived in africa.To put simple most African tribes, had zero concept of western money ideals and wealth concepts were entirely different to that of western nations.

Simply put there was little or no inequality between isolated tribes that haven't yet been introduced to western culture, compared to western nations, which already had a large divide.Were they better off, in terms of inequality most definitely, they were after all far less developed in general. But we are talking about wealth inequality, social standing within a tribe is entirely different debate, and most definitely some members were less equal.In the case of the Khoisan and general harsh environment and nomadic ways, inequality, with regards to social or wealth played very little importance.

science and technology brought about inequality, care to show me 8th century science and technology in isolated regions of Africa, before first contact, that rival that of western nations, I will happily print out 20 pages on this thread and used it as toilet paper. Were Africans better off, by western standards, no, by their own standard, they couldn't give a hoot.

perhaps the mere suggestion of doing some research.

Do you really believe there were no inequality within traditional African tribes? I have to resist insulting your lack of logic and facts. Inequality is a natural thing and even exist with animals.

 

[Temujin]

This thread has gotten so far off topic. The Philosophy Section is here --> https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/forums/philosophical-debates.149/. Please make use of this to carry on with whatever you are trying to say, @wizardofid.

Back to the topic at hand:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461773030087004164

It's always the same people spreading absolute garbage.

Who can reply?
People @Ava follows or mentioned can reply

Feels>facts

 

[supersunbird]

I do sense though that your big problem is inequality itself. I have news for you, it jas always existed and it will always exist. People are not born equal and nothing can ever make them equal. We all have different abilities, ambitions, drives, etc. A world where all is equal will never exist. If it could I'd be playing pro-golf.

Everyone would be playing pro golf, but since it would be everyone, it would be average golf, not pro golf, and everyone would score the same, and it would in the end be totally pointless golf.

 

[The Voice]

Who can reply?
People @Ava follows or mentioned can reply

Feels>facts

Wow, when did Twitter introduce the echo chamber feature? Didn't even know that was a thing.

 

[rambo919]

Isn't all golf pointless though?

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

It is a fact that the time when there was the greatest inequality is when Jan stepped foot on Africa. He brought things like the wheel and literacy which was carried over to the native people and reduced inequality.

 

[mojoman]

It is a fact that the time when there was the greatest inequality is when Jan stepped foot on Africa. He brought things like the wheel and literacy which was carried over to the native people and reduced inequality.

Lol...let me get in here before The Champ or someone....
(The methodology to break it was also invented here.....)

The Wheel – invented in Africa | News24

Ever since I can remember, I have been hearing that nothing worthwhile has ever been invented in Africa. I didn’t believe this.

www.news24.com

 

[The Voice]

Lol...let me get in here before The Champ or someone....
(The methodology to break it was also invented here.....)

The Wheel – invented in Africa | News24

Ever since I can remember, I have been hearing that nothing worthwhile has ever been invented in Africa. I didn’t believe this.

www.news24.com

Holy **** that's one of the best things I've ever read!

I'm amazed it's still up there!

 

[Flanders]

Lol...let me get in here before The Champ or someone....
(The methodology to break it was also invented here.....)

The Wheel – invented in Africa | News24

Ever since I can remember, I have been hearing that nothing worthwhile has ever been invented in Africa. I didn’t believe this.

www.news24.com

This is the real reason why news24 removed the comments section.