KZN rugby player shot dead by cops in Hawaii

[Tokolotshe]

I think you missed the part where he was already shot and continued the assault.

Anyway, who says it's not an alt spear of the nation, longer than that ...

 

[Archer]

They shot a burglar in the leg, rather than deploying non-lethal means like the Hawaiian police did initially? And that's a good thing?

The Dutch are largely unarmed so the chances of the burglar being armed with a firearm was low.

You want to know why American cops shoot so many more people than their European counterparts? Because they're going up against more criminals armed with guns. When you shoot a person in the leg they can still shoot back.

But that wasn't your argument now was it?

 

[Fulcrum29]

This guy might have had a Japanese side chick at the house.

A huge part of the Hawaiian populace are now mixed. The demographic is mixed with whites, blacks, Asians and native/Pacific islanders. In a lot of cases of Asian (or more particular Japanese) ancestry, traditional customs do-follow.

Hawaii is full of white people with Asian features, resulting in mixed cultural heritage.

 

[bwana]

But that wasn't your argument now was it?

Sure.

 

[Speedster]

Maybe we should remind ourselves it's customary in most places not to attack the police. Only exception I'm aware of is in the leftist cultures of the US.

 

[Tokolotshe]

The guys from Hawaii 5-0 would have been able to handle this situation with no fatalities.

Make yourself a cup of strong sweet tea, sit down ...

(Quickly have a sip of tea)

Mrs Sollie is watching Hawaii 5-0 atm, I can hear the TV. "Show hands", dude decided not to. Bam, bam! "He's gone" a woman says. They're after the other guy that did a runner. "Show hands, show hands!". He does, he's survives.

So it seems they also don't have an answer to non-compliance.

 

[Geoff.D]

Maybe we should remind ourselves it's customary in most places not to attack the police. Only exception I'm aware of is in the leftist cultures of the US.

And in our beloved country!

 

[Geoff.D]

So has anyone bothered to try and analyse the situation and come up with a hypothesis or scenario that explains what happened?

 

[Tokolotshe]

And in our beloved country!

How many beach attacks have there been?

 

[Fulcrum29]

So ahas anyone bothered to try and analyse the situation and come up with a hypothesis or scenario that explains what happened?

There is not enough evidence publicly available to formulate a hypothesis.

 

[daveza]

Lot's of conjecture, but a guy who from all reports is just a neighborhood dude, suddenly walks into someone else's house and sits down in their lounge, then goes ballistic against 3 armed cops - something is missing from this story.

 

[supersunbird]

Maybe we should remind ourselves it's customary in most places not to attack the police. Only exception I'm aware of is in the leftist cultures of the US.

Well, in some places in SA it is customary to attack the police... and the fire brigade... and ambulances.

 

[supersunbird]

Lot's of conjecture, but a guy who from all reports is just a neighborhood dude, suddenly walks into someone else's house and sits down in their lounge, then goes ballistic against 3 armed cops - something is missing from this story.

Drugs and/or sex *shrugs*

 

[Gordon_R]

Not sure if this link was posted, but the bodycam footage doesn't do the police any credit:

Hawaii police release bodycam footage of cops shooting SA man in the US | News24

Shocking bodycam footage has emerged and it shows how South African man Lindani Myeni was shot in Hawaii.

www.news24.com

Edit: The bodycam link was removed from the article, but it still covers the timeline and narrative.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Drugs and/or sex *shrugs*

Not sure about the sex. It doesn't explain it.

Drugs? Possible as it will account for events

Methamphetamine is a powerful stimulant that makes users feel both invincible and paranoid — a dangerous combination — particularly if, as an investigative report found, the user is behind the wheel of a 19,000-pound Peterbilt 379 semi, with a 60,000-pound grain trailer attached.

Use of the drug is a common feature of the 309 shootings of people by Colorado law enforcement in the past six years, according to records compiled and analyzed by CPR News. Investigative reports show how the users’ sense of invincibility can render less-than-lethal alternatives, like Tasers, all but useless.

Sauce ...

 

[Fulcrum29]

I have learned a long time ago never to step into a home of a questionable profile. You don't have to go look for trouble, trouble comes looking for you.

 

[supersunbird]

Not sure if this link was posted, but the bodycam footage doesn't do the police any credit:

Hawaii police release bodycam footage of cops shooting SA man in the US | News24

Shocking bodycam footage has emerged and it shows how South African man Lindani Myeni was shot in Hawaii.

www.news24.com

We have been dissecting it for many posts now.

Since you late to the game, at which second would you changed the police behaviour and how, and how would it proceed further?

 

[Gordon_R]

We have been dissecting it for many posts now.

Since you late to the game, at which second would you changed the police behaviour and how, and how would it proceed further?

The News24 link has not been posted before. I'm not late to the game, i read the story this morning. I just missed the bit where it went from page 1 to page 14, repeating the same arguments over. My comments are covered by several others, so I'm not going to repeat them.

 

[Tokolotshe]

The News24 link has not been posted before. I'm not late to the game, i read the story this morning. I just missed the bit where it went from page 1 to page 14, repeating the same arguments over. My comments are covered by several others, so I'm not going to repeat them.

Wise man!

 

[Vrotappel]

Well, in some places in SA it is customary to attack the police... and the fire brigade... and ambulances.

Schools, clinics, libraries, motor dealerships, stop signs, foreigners, spaza shops, basically everything.