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DA-LION-619
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I’m not sure where this info came from? Is this also from the police report that said he got out of the car then charged?
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KZN rugby player shot dead by cops in Hawaii
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This was after he entered the house. He took his shoes off when he entered the house. Later he went to his car.
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That was inside the house. He'd clearly put them back on as we can see in the vid.
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If you look at it as pulling the trigger sure, I see it as irresponsible use of a firearm especially in an unknown situation.
Definition of TRIGGER-HAPPY
irresponsible in the use of firearms; especially : inclined to shoot before clearly identifying the target; inclined to be irresponsible in matters that might precipitate war; aggressively belligerent in attitude… See the full definition
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Okay. That clears up why she said he's still in the car. Just wondering how these deductions are made.
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I don't recall seeing a single armed police officer during my time in Japan. Their gun laws work pretty well.Sure about that?
Police officer shot dead at Croydon Custody Centre
The long-serving sergeant was an "inspiration to all who knew him", says one colleague.www.bbc.com
Or...
London officer shot dead while detaining suspect at station
A British police officer has been shot dead inside a London police station by a suspect he was detaining, who then appears to have turned the gun on himselfabcnews.go.com
Gun laws and restrictions only applies to law abiding citizens and not criminals. They never work in any country around the world.
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That's exactly my point about US policing. Man acting crazy should not equal dead man...
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"in an unknown situation". You said it. If a cop feels safe and sure during for instance a traffic stop, like when he asks a driver to put his hands out the window and the driver complies, he would probably not have to draw his gun. If the situation is unknown or may pose risk, the duty of the officer is to protect his own life and the lives of bystanders. Often drawing his gun necessitates this, especially in a country with 330m guns on the street.If you look at it as pulling the trigger sure, I see it as irresponsible use of a firearm especially in an unknown situation.
Definition of TRIGGER-HAPPY
irresponsible in the use of firearms; especially : inclined to shoot before clearly identifying the target; inclined to be irresponsible in matters that might precipitate war; aggressively belligerent in attitude… See the full definition
What deductions were made that you are have difficulties with?
Which info?
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She didn't say that. I heard "he's in the car" or something
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Cops pointed gun at an intruder as they should. That's not trigger happyIf you look at it as pulling the trigger sure, I see it as irresponsible use of a firearm especially in an unknown situation.
Definition of TRIGGER-HAPPY
irresponsible in the use of firearms; especially : inclined to shoot before clearly identifying the target; inclined to be irresponsible in matters that might precipitate war; aggressively belligerent in attitude… See the full definition
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Not referring to your post specifically. Just referring to 17 pages of deductions made without facts. As far as I can see to date the only known facts are that a dude was in a property where the owner/tenant did not want him. The owner called the cops. The cops tried to detain him and he attacked them. They tried to subdue him with a tazer and a shot. He kept going for them and they killed him.
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If you look at the vid, the cop approaches the house, woman shouts, also saying "he's still in the car"/"stealing the car" and points.
At this stage, looking at the footage, note the light from the side away from the house on the vehicles. The was a second source of light. Myeni would be to his left, clearly being able to hear and see the cop.
At this stage the cop changes direction around the back of the camper in fornt of the pillars. Myeni had a few clear views of him. As he reaches the front of the other vehicle to his right in the direction the woman pointed, looking for whoever, Myeni decides to come at the cop. In about 4 seconds he's onto the cop.
There can be zero doubt Myeni knew it was a cop. Look at where the cop walked, Myeni knew full well it was a cop.
I'm curious to know why there were so many vehicles on the property.
At this stage, looking at the footage, note the light from the side away from the house on the vehicles. The was a second source of light. Myeni would be to his left, clearly being able to hear and see the cop.
At this stage the cop changes direction around the back of the camper in fornt of the pillars. Myeni had a few clear views of him. As he reaches the front of the other vehicle to his right in the direction the woman pointed, looking for whoever, Myeni decides to come at the cop. In about 4 seconds he's onto the cop.
There can be zero doubt Myeni knew it was a cop. Look at where the cop walked, Myeni knew full well it was a cop.
I'm curious to know why there were so many vehicles on the property.
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Give it a rest, someone has already said you cannot compare the two. JFC, the levels of violence is miles apart. Wish all these armchair professional police would sign up and do it their way
Some stuff comes from the body cam footage. Like officer 1 says 3 or 4 times to the lady "where he went?". The lady seems to have difficulty understanding that. It could be that she is in a panicked state but it could also be the sentence construction is a bit strange and slang'ish.
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Yeah no it's rediculous to compare a country like the US with so much gun violence and where everyone can carry a gun with the UK where intruders are far less likely to be armed with guns.
Would make much more sense to compare the US with SA. What do our cops usually point at intruders?