KZN rugby player shot dead by cops in Hawaii

Gordon_R

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ForceFate said:
Granted, but it still doesn't answer my questions. If he was already talking to a police officer, why did others decide to issue new orders for him to lie down? Did they not notice the police officers talking to him? They say the light from the spotlight was directly into his eyes. How would he have noticed they were police officers?

I watched the video but couldn't make out the figures against the dark background.
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This thread (both the police officers and those who support their one-sided view) is a fantastic example of the Theory of Mind, and the failure thereof! See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
Theory of mind as a personal capability is the understanding that others have beliefs, desires, intentions, and perspectives that are different from one's own. Possessing a functional theory of mind is considered crucial for success in everyday human social interactions and is used when analyzing, judging, and inferring others' behaviors.
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1. I am a police officer. Therefore the other person must know that I am a police officer.
2. I have been called to the scene of a crime. Therefore the other person must know this, and respond accordingly.
3. I give orders which are lawful. Therefore the other person must understand and acknowledge that my orders are valid, and must respond accordingly.
4. I shine a torch and can see the other person. Therefore the other person can see and recognise me.

IMO the reaction of the police officers, and many people on this thread, indicate a lack of understanding of human interactions, and an inability to deal with others. In other words, sociopaths...
 
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Gordon_R said:
This thread (both the police officers and those who support their one-sided view) is a fantastic example of the Theory of Mind, and the failure thereof! See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

1. I am a police officer. Therefore the other person must know that I am a police officer.
2. I have been called to the scene of a crime. Therefore the other person must know this, and respond accordingly.
3. I give orders which are lawful. Therefore the other person must understand and acknowledge that my orders are valid, and must respond accordingly.
4. I shine a torch and can see the other person. Therefore the other person can see and recognise me.

IMO the reaction of the police officers, and many people on this thread, indicate a lack of understanding of human interactions, and an inability to deal with others. In other words, sociopaths...
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The irony of this post XD
 
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Gordon_R said:
This thread (both the police officers and those who support their one-sided view) is a fantastic example of the Theory of Mind, and the failure thereof! See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

1. I am a police officer. Therefore the other person must know that I am a police officer.
2. I have been called to the scene of a crime. Therefore the other person must know this, and respond accordingly.
3. I give orders which are lawful. Therefore the other person must understand and acknowledge that my orders are valid, and must respond accordingly.
4. I shine a torch and can see the other person. Therefore the other person can see and recognise me.

IMO the reaction of the police officers, and many people on this thread, indicate a lack of understanding of human interactions, and an inability to deal with others. In other words, sociopaths...
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Looks, attacking other people who are pointing a gun at you with your fists is also not normal behaviour.
 
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Cray said:
What has that got to do with the state of mind of someone who has lost a loved one, is that supposed to make it easier to deal with?
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It has been nearly 3 weeks. I expect to see rationality by now. It seems she is just as crazy as him or she is trying to milk the situation.

Most probably the last one.

I hope the assaulted Police are ok. They are the real victims here.

That video once again shows us what the cops must deal with.
 
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Gordon_R said:
This thread (both the police officers and those who support their one-sided view) is a fantastic example of the Theory of Mind, and the failure thereof! See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

1. I am a police officer. Therefore the other person must know that I am a police officer.
2. I have been called to the scene of a crime. Therefore the other person must know this, and respond accordingly.
3. I give orders which are lawful. Therefore the other person must understand and acknowledge that my orders are valid, and must respond accordingly.
4. I shine a torch and can see the other person. Therefore the other person can see and recognise me.

IMO the reaction of the police officers, and many people on this thread, indicate a lack of understanding of human interactions, and an inability to deal with others. In other words, sociopaths...
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Maggot brain spotted. The mental gymnastics required to reason like this amazing. All the video evidence amazing. There are something seriously wrong with some people on this planet.
 
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Vrotappel said:
It has been nearly 3 weeks. I expect to see rationality by now. It seems she is just as crazy as him or she is trying to milk the situation.
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Cool, where did you get your psychology degree that gives you the knowledge to tell people how long they have to deal with losing a life partner?
 
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ForceFate said:
She's hurting. Her husband has just been killed.
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Yes but I'm saying it will be a very stupid move.

She has a very weird way of mourning though trying to create some sort of racial storm. All she (and her family) talks about is how he was killed just because he was black. How he was kicked out of the house by the evil occupants because he was black. How he would still be alive after attacking and seriously injuring cops if he was white.
 
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Gordon_R said:
You sir, are the second point in my comment. Look in the mirror...
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How you can come to the conclusions you are coming is mind boggling. Unbelievable. No wonder the world has these issues. People who sees a video but only see what they want to see. The reality dysfunction.
 
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