Why do you keep moving the goal posts or bring in other irrelevant facts to the case in hand to try and prove your point? Keep to the facts in this case and stop deflecting.
Fair enough. At the end of the day my argument has always had two main points:
1) US police are poorly trained and, even in situations where threat is low, are more likely shoot to kill. This is due to the fact that police training is so short in the US.
2) Whether it is racially motivated in this case has yet to be ventilated in court. It may turn out to be, it may not. But this doesn't change the fact that non-whites are treated much more harshly by police in the US.
Also comparing apples to oranges w.r.t America and Europe, vastly different societies and crime rates.
It's also clear from this case that race wasn't a determining factor, so stop race baiting.
You know what. That's fair. Europe is quite different from the US. But it's funny how Europe has much lower crime rates (in general), but still puts their police through training that lasts 2-4 years.
(I addressed your second point regard race above, so see my thoughts there.)
Further what all these studies conveniently leave out is normalizing the data with violent crime in which case American police shoot all races more or less at the same rates.
I absolutely LOVE how you talk about facts, but fail to produce a single study or source or any evidence that supports your point of view.
To point out the
facts: more whites are shot and killed by police in the US as a percentage of the people who are shot and killed. HOWEVER, when you compare how many people are killed relative to their race group and the population as a whole, more non-whites are killed.
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“Although Black people represented 12 percent of the population in the states we studied, they made up 25 percent of the deaths in police shootings,” Miller says.
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The study found that the racial disparity was even more pronounced in those cases in which the victims were unarmed and offered minimal to no threat to police.
“In those instances in which the victim appeared to pose a minimal-or-less threat to police, based on the data we had, Black people were three times as likely to be killed,” Miller says. “That doesn’t mean the police didn’t feel threatened. But based on the reports that we were able to to look at, a very low level of threat was directed at the police. And in those specific cases, the numbers rose for Black people: They made up 36 percent of the deaths.”
Miller adds that his study, which was released in March, was not an outlier on the issue of race in police shootings.
“Many other studies have shown that Black people are more likely to be killed per capita by law enforcement than are white people in the United States,” Miller says. “That is not a disputed statistic.”
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When President Donald Trump responded to a question about Black people who have died at the hands of U.S. law enforcement by focusing his attention on white victims, he was engaging in a “grotesque” misdirection, says Matt Miller, a Northeastern professor who studies gun violence. “Black people...
news.northeastern.edu
-- Article 2 --
We find that African American men and women, American Indian/Alaska Native men and women, and Latino men face higher lifetime risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. We find that Latina women and Asian/Pacific Islander men and women face lower risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. Risk is highest for black men, who (at current levels of risk) face about a 1 in 1,000 chance of being killed by police over the life course. The average lifetime odds of being killed by police are about 1 in 2,000 for men and about 1 in 33,000 for women. Risk peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for all groups. For young men of color, police use of force is among the leading causes of death.
Police violence is a leading cause of death for young men in the United States. Over the life course, about 1 in every 1,000 black men can expect to be killed by police. Risk of being killed by police peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for men and women and for all racial and ethnic groups...
www.pnas.org
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White people make up 76% of the population in the USA. Black people in the region of 13%. (Stats from 2019)
In 2019 370 white people were shot and killed by police, while 235 black people were also shot and killed by the cops.
Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 238 civilians having been shot, 30 of whom were Black, as of March 27, 2023.
www.statista.com
I happily wait your sources
@Little-Mermaid. I am happy to accept I am wrong about certain things, but I just gotta say, the numbers don't seem to support the last point in your post.
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