KZN rugby player shot dead by cops in Hawaii

[bwana]

Sure about that?

Police officer shot dead at Croydon Custody Centre

The long-serving sergeant was an "inspiration to all who knew him", says one colleague.

www.bbc.com

Or...

London officer shot dead while detaining suspect at station

A British police officer has been shot dead inside a London police station by a suspect he was detaining, who then appears to have turned the gun on himself

abcnews.go.com

Gun laws and restrictions only applies to law abiding citizens and not criminals. They never work in any country around the world.

You know that two reports of the same incident doesn't make it two incidents, right?

Ironically if you read the BBC article to the Analysis section you'll see an interesting statistic:

The Metropolitan Police officer shot dead in Croydon is the 17th from the force to have been killed by a firearm since the Second World War.

17 cops killed with a firearm in what, 75 years? Meanwhile in the US in 2019 alone 44 law enforcement officers were killed with a firearm.

 

[Zurg]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1383245475701166083

 

[bwana]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1383245475701166083

What do you think we've been talking about?

 

[RedViking]

Why did the first officer switch off his camera?

Why did they not identify themselves as police, specially running towards him, waiting at his car, with guns out?

If they knew he was having odd behaviour and they could not handle him, why did they not call for backup?

Why if he had no gun they did not step back and ask him to calm down?

Why did they have to shoot him instead and running towards him clearly not have the strength or ability to arrest him?

What did he do that made the woman so upset?

What did he do for them to approach him so aggressively?

You have 3 men running towards you in the dark with guns blazing and shouting get down. In his head, under influence or not, He was fighting for his live.


Need more info to make sense of it all.

 

[supersunbird]

Why did the first officer switch off his camera?

Why did they not identify themselves as police, specially running towards him, waiting at his car, with guns out?

If they knew he was having odd behaviour and they could not handle him, why did they not call for backup?

Why if he had no gun they did not step back and ask him to calm down?

Why did they have to shoot him instead and running towards him clearly not have the strength or ability to arrest him?

What did he do that made the woman so upset?

What did he do for them to approach him so aggressively?

You have 3 men running towards you in the dark with guns blazing and shouting get down. In his head, under influence or not, He was fighting for his live.


Need more info to make sense of it all.

Why did he attack them?

Why did he go sit in a strangers house?

Guns blazing means they shot him as they were running to him and that didn't happen, do you mean brandishing?

Criminals don't ask you to "get on the ground".

 

[ponder]

Holy crap the number of mental gymnastics going on here to create a narrative is astounding.

 

[Dan C]

F**king immigrants

They should've built a wall around Hawaii long ago already.

 

[daveza]

Wait for the autopsy - for some reason he was behaving irrationally.

But I don't buy the need to lethally shoot an unarmed suspect 4 times when there are 3 police officers at the scene.

 

[stoymigo]

I want to believe it was racial profiling, but gut says he was causing trouble and got caught

 

[Milano]

This video is significantly clearer and brighter than the first video:

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Do you also follow the customary practice of taking your shoes off and entering strangers houses uninvited in the middle of the night?

Only when breaking-and-entering...

 

[ponder]

But I don't buy the need to lethally shoot an unarmed suspect 4 times when there are 3 police officers at the scene.

Oh what should they have done, offered him a cuppa tea and scones?

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

Man enter property where he does not belong
Police arrive in dark
Police coming into a possible dangerous encounter, orders man to lie down.
Man attacks them
Police try not to use deadly force and taser him.
Taser does not work or man is possibly high on drugs so taser have no affect.
Man keeps attacking, police fire a shot
Man keeps attacking police fire more and kill him.

Even in the best scenario where the suspect was there maybe innocent or by accident. drunk or whatever. And he did not know it was police and thought its someone attacking/robbing him. Still you cant blame police. They did not come shooting, they came and ordered him to the ground, when he started attacking, they did not shoot, the tasered first. If by some miracle the taser malfunctioned, then its just a tragic accident due to circumstance. Cant blame anyone.

Police are daily called to walk into possible deadly situations. They do not know the suspects or the situations, they just see what happens in front of them in a split second and have to deal with it. Are the US police trigger happy? Yes some of them. That has nothing to do with this case. I see no way the police could handle this differently.

 

[supersunbird]

Wait for the autopsy - for some reason he was behaving irrationally.

But I don't buy the need to lethally shoot an unarmed suspect 4 times when there are 3 police officers at the scene.

They tried to taser him to no effect, you saw and heard that right?

 

[wbot]

But I don't buy the need to lethally shoot an unarmed suspect 4 times when there are 3 police officers at the scene.

3 police, 2 with head/face injuries, 1 in hospital

 

[TheChamp]

They tried to taser him to no effect, you saw and heard that right?

About that, how does it work? Is he immune to electricity or how does a taser not work on a person?

 

[supersunbird]

About that, how does it work? Is he immune to electricity or how does a taser not work on a person?

Not making a good connection or the person being high or drunk are 2 reasons I can think of off hand.

 

[Milano]

About that, how does it work? Is he immune to electricity or how does a taser not work on a person?

They only work about 50% of the time. Think this has been discussed before.

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

Some people have tugged the metal probes from their bodies, rendering the device useless. Mental illness or drug use can also influence how a person reacts to the shock. Sometimes the fault lies with officers who don’t use them properly.

 

[Kodi]

Wait for the autopsy - for some reason he was behaving irrationally.

But I don't buy the need to lethally shoot an unarmed suspect 4 times when there are 3 police officers at the scene.

You omitting one crucial element. The suspect was tearing hell for leather, at least that is what the evidence reveals.

 

[wbot]

About that, how does it work? Is he immune to electricity or how does a taser not work on a person?

Someone on drugs can be less effected by electric shock than normal people. Also some clothing can get in the way and it also depends on where the metal probes land and if they actually stay on the body etc.

But some people are just not effected by tasers as much as other people. Tasers fail many times.