Labour unions accept Eskom's 7% wage increase

[porchrat]

Easy. Watch how you speak to people

No offence meant. You're rather strange, or at least a little thin-skinned if "Have you been living under a rock?" is considered insulting by you. It's a common turn of phrase indicating someone unaware of a situation most other people are commonly aware of.

You simply seem largely unaware of the past actions of these unions with regards to Eskom.

Make no mistake, this is not the beginning. This problem has been going on for years, if not decades.

 

[Blackhand]

So I think that is a simplistic view of the situation.

Yes De Ruyter could be harder on the workers and all that, but taking that road would mean more destruction/sabotage/strikes etc. He has to think of the country as a whole in this process.

I do think you will find that some of the strikers will be disciplined and dismissed, but it will be done as quietly as possible so as to not cause further labour issues.

That may well be the strategy, but I completely disagree with it.

They should be sending a message loud and clear, this will no longer be tolerated and the free ride is over at Eskom. Only those who deliver get rewarded.
The current message is what we typically see, rampant criminality will be rewarded with increases. Bigger increases than most other people in the country after the economy was left in tatters.

 

[ToxicBunny]

That may well be the strategy, but I completely disagree with it.

They should be sending a message loud and clear, this will no longer be tolerated and the free ride is over at Eskom. Only those who deliver get rewarded.
The current message is what we typically see, rampant criminality will be rewarded with increases. Bigger increases than most other people in the country after the economy was left in tatters.

I am in the same boat, I do totally disagree with it but I am also aware that taking the hard stance now when things are so fragile would very likely blow up in everyones face and runs the very real risk of seeing our entire national grid collapsing. So rather appease the little fsckers to protect the national grid.

The problem is that this behaviour has been enabled for so long that you can't just turn off the taps in one fell swoop without significant pain and suffering for the whole country, and its probably a level of pain and suffering that would cause total economic collapse.

 

[The Darkness]

No offence meant. You're rather strange, or at least a little thin-skinned if "Have you been living under a rock?" is considered insulting by you. It's a common turn of phrase indicating someone unaware of a situation most other people are commonly aware of.

You simply seem largely unaware of the past actions of these unions with regards to Eskom.

Make no mistake, this is not the beginning. This problem has been going on for years, if not decades.

They've not stooped this low before, while we are on our knees, illegally striking to leverage their own advantage. It's also the first time I'm seeing them illegally strike and be rewarded for it.

 

[AlphaJohn]

That may well be the strategy, but I completely disagree with it.

They should be sending a message loud and clear, this will no longer be tolerated and the free ride is over at Eskom. Only those who deliver get rewarded.
The current message is what we typically see, rampant criminality will be rewarded with increases. Bigger increases than most other people in the country after the economy was left in tatters.

"Is it because I am black?"
"You racist!"
/me call EFF
tomorrow we burning everything down....

 

[porchrat]

They've not stooped this low before, while we are on our knees, illegally striking to leverage their own advantage. It's also the first time I'm seeing them illegally strike and be rewarded for it.

I disagree. They were rewarded for the last illegal strike with a 3 year 7.5% per annum wage agreement. Arguably an even better deal than the one they just got. This is nothing new. If anything this is a slight improvement over last time.

The whole "going this low" is also nothing new. The last time loadshedding was this bad was in, you guessed it, 2018/2019, when the last set of illegal strikes happened. Perhaps you just don't recall that period or weren't paying attention at the time, but this is all a repeat of 3 years ago.

 

[The Darkness]

I disagree. They were rewarded for the last illegal strike with a 3 year 7.5% per annum wage agreement. Arguably an even better deal than the one they just got. This is nothing new. If anything this is a slight improvement over last time.

The whole "going this low" is also nothing new. The last time loadshedding was this bad was in, you guessed it, 2019, when the last set of illegal strikes happened. Perhaps you just don't recall that period or weren't paying attention at the time, but this is all a repeat of 3 years ago.

Points taken, yes. They should have all been fired. Pretty sad situation really. No hard feelings

 

[porchrat]

Points taken, yes. They should have all been fired. Pretty sad situation really. No hard feelings

You are I think 100% spot-on with the sentiment that this isn't going to stop. Which was I think the crux of your comment? They get rewarded for rampaging and destroying. They will simply do it again next year.

I feel like a harder line should have been taken. Even if that means Eskom needs to move to some new double digit loadshedding stage where I get to measure the power I get each day in minutes not hours.

This simple can't continue.

 

[mojoman]

You are I think 100% spot-on with the sentiment that this isn't going to stop. Which was I think the crux of your comment? They get rewarded for rampaging and destroying. They will simply do it again next year.

I feel like a harder line should have been taken. Even if that means Eskom needs to move to some new double digit loadshedding stage where I get to measure the power I get each day in minutes not hours.

This simple can't continue.

Got a feeling thats where we are heading regardless of what the workers get...

 

[The Darkness]

You are I think 100% spot-on with the sentiment that this isn't going to stop. Which was I think the crux of your comment? They get rewarded for rampaging and destroying. They will simply do it again next year.

I feel like a harder line should have been taken. Even if that means Eskom needs to move to some new double digit loadshedding stage where I get to measure the power I get each day in minutes not hours.

This simple can't continue.

It’s been happening for more than 12 years now.
There’s only 1 solution = ban unions outright (they are legacy from the past), fire anyone who doesn’t get to work. Jail anyone who disrupts those who do want to work.
But we know that it’s far deeper than just this. It’s impossible to fix Eskom because the corruption is so deeply entrenched.
And yes, I absolutely support the idea that we should be at level 10 here. This needs to start have dire effects on the ANC voters. They need to directly feel the results of their ill chosen party.

 

[The Darkness]

Got a feeling thats where we are heading regardless of what the workers get...

Don’t despair. There are many substations, many good people who want this to work. Right now the balance of good to evil is skewed, but in SA we will see the back of this. It’s going to be a rough ride, but have faith