Lamola to 'urgently assist' Kanya Cekeshe to apply for presidential pardon.

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During Tuesday's meeting, DA MP Glynnis Breytenbach asked Batohi what Lamola's announcement does to the morale of prosecutors who work hard on difficult matters, only for it to be undone with the stroke of a pen.

Batohi said she and Lamola work closely together.

"He is very, very committed to the independence of the NPA and also to supporting the NPA with the necessary resources the executive can give to the NPA," Batohi said.

"This is not something that the minister hasn't mentioned previously. But as far as the prosecutors are concerned, we know that notwithstanding in some instances what the executive might do, we need to do what we have to do."

How it should be.... , NPA does its mandated job...with no hindrance...whatever the executive does, is their political business... long as it is done within the bonds of legality.
 

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Reality check:
Helen uses contacts in a responsible way to help in education. Witch hunt, PP report ... bad bad person, aunty Helen!

Young hooligan sets police van alight: He's a hero. ANC & EFF is having a meltdown.

This is why our country is so fecked. :X3:
 

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How it should be.... , NPA does its mandated job...with no hindrance...whatever the executive does, is their political business... long as it is done within the bonds of legality.
I don't understand why the executive should even get involved with the justice system...surely separation of powers is being broken here if they can just demand to have a terrorist released by the president?

Oh wait........
 

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I don't understand why the executive should even get involved with the justice system...surely separation of powers is being broken here if they can just demand to have a terrorist released by the president?

Oh wait........

first off, he is not a terrorist ... not sure what the charge sheet reads.... suppose incitement of violence and malicious destruction of property..... he would be charged, trialed, convicted and sentenced....
once, the justice system process is completed....only then .... the President has the power, vested in him by our constitution to pardon his offence.
With our rule of law, being where it is now....I would be inclined to let him sit and use the parole route rather.
 

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first off, he is not a terrorist ... not sure what the charge sheet reads.... suppose incitement of violence and malicious destruction of property..... he would be charged, trialed, convicted and sentenced....
once, the justice system process is completed....only then .... the President has the power, vested in him by our constitution to pardon his offence.
With our rule of law, being where it is now....I would be inclined to let him sit and use the parole route rather.
Agreed on a couple of things yep - our constitution was definitely written with a bit too much power vested in the executive.
He may not be classified as a terrorist in the official sense of the word but setting any police vehicles on fire and rioting and intimidating civilians for political gain, in my eyes at least, labels him a terrorist.
 

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Agreed on a couple of things yep - our constitution was definitely written with a bit too much power vested in the executive.
He may not be classified as a terrorist in the official sense of the word but setting any police vehicles on fire and rioting and intimidating civilians for political gain, in my eyes at least, labels him a terrorist.
The word is sedition.
 

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If freed then those that free him must pay the damages caused.

Bunch of criminals protecting criminals.
 

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The fact of the matter is that the FMF group were not only conducting protests for free education. In fact, they were merely hiding behind 'free education' for a much darker, sinister reason. They mobilized against the government and attacked armed government forces and burnt out their vehicles. This is clearly an attempt to overthrow the government and get their own party into ruling the government. This is nothing else but treason and terrorism.

I do find it shocking that the courts did not charge them under these acts though and rather tried them on lesser serious acts.

To make things worse, certain Ministers in government now wants to get pardons and release these criminals. Clearly these Ministers are conspiring to overthrow the current government.

This is not about the Constitution, but rather a case of a certain fraction against the government hiding behind it misusing it.
 

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Agreed on a couple of things yep - our constitution was definitely written with a bit too much power vested in the executive.
He may not be classified as a terrorist in the official sense of the word but setting any police vehicles on fire and rioting and intimidating civilians for political gain, in my eyes at least, labels him a terrorist.
you right, way too much power vested in the Presidency...akin to an imperial presidency model. The JZ years has shown the deficiency of safeguards, in the system to keep it in check. Opposition parties should have made diluting or placing more checks on the Presidency a front and centre issue during the election period....the climate and public support for such a move, post JZ, would have gotten traction and forced CR/ANC to actually engage.

He/they pushed the discourse of tertiary education forward, when society was happy with the status quo...in the process broke the law, and must now face the consequence. I would put it down to the passion/fearlessness of youth ...but, yea, you break the law, you face the consequences.
 
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