Learning to spot scientific fraud

Splinter

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That awkward moment when they realize they are "thinking" with/using their fee-fees.
Or/alternatively as Geoff.D put it, when they realize they are "a group thinker".

WTF is up with you and "fee-fees"?

What do you mean by this?
 

HermeticAnarchist

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Scientific studies...meh who need them when everyone can just Google and Youtube their own research.

When the Great Deception started, Lancet published an article which questioned the safety of Hydroxychloroquine.

On the back of that article, the WHO and all other Narrative-peddlars actively discouraged prescribing HCQ for covid.

Thousands of doctors worldwide challenged the paper and revealed it as fraudulent and the paper was subsequently retracted. Did the the Narrative-peddlars reverse their position? No. It was a hatchet job. They conveniently ignored it because it would have killed the case for the vaccine.

So yes. Scientific studies...meh...who needs them?
 

Ponderer

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When the Great Deception started, Lancet published an article which questioned the safety of Hydroxychloroquine.

On the back of that article, the WHO and all other Narrative-peddlars actively discouraged prescribing HCQ for covid.

Thousands of doctors worldwide challenged the paper and revealed it as fraudulent and the paper was subsequently retracted. Did the the Narrative-peddlars reverse their position? No. It was a hatchet job. They conveniently ignored it because it would have killed the case for the vaccine.

So yes. Scientific studies...meh...who needs them?
The WHO is squarely about politics.
Anything/everything they say should be taken with more than a little "pinch of salt".

Unfortunately, Science has also become politicized.
You simply cannot believe/trust something that is claimed to be Science that is in fact nothing other than Propaganda.
You have to think (for your self).
You must be skeptical.
You must discern Science from Propaganda.
 

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Whenever you are unsure about whether you are being fed a lie .....

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Splinter

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The WHO is squarely about politics.
Anything/everything they say should be taken with more than a little "pinch of salt".

Unfortunately, Science has also become politicized.
You simply cannot believe/trust something that is claimed to be Science that is in fact nothing other than Propaganda.
You have to think (for your self).
You must be skeptical.
You must discern Science from Propaganda.

Yet you believe in a man-made book from about 2000 years ago?
 

Geoff.D

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Correct. The control group have been vaccinated by now.
As Grant to confirm for how long he is being monitored.
The placebo group might be removed from their links to the trials, but those that received the trial vaccines remain under surveillance for quite a long time. As usual, the lack of comprehension is the problem.
 

calvin-

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As Grant to confirm for how long he is being monitored.
The placebo group might be removed from their links to the trials, but those that received the trial vaccines remain under surveillance for quite a long time. As usual, the lack of comprehension is the problem.

Again. You just suck rubbish out of your thumb. The placebo and non placebo groups are monitored for the same length of time. The J&J Ensemble trial is two years from start to finish.
A participant can pull out any time they want.
 

Geoff.D

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Again. You just suck rubbish out of your thumb. The placebo and non placebo groups are monitored for the same length of time. The J&J Ensemble trial is two years from start to finish.
A participant can pull out any time they want.
Once again, you demonstrate you are incapable of reading. What do you think "might" means? Idiot!
 

calvin-

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Once again, you demonstrate you are incapable of reading. What do you think "might" means? Idiot!

As a placebo member of the J&J Ensamble trial, I can tell everyone you made up the word "might", along with the rest of that sentence.

You just made it up.
 

Geoff.D

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As a placebo member of the J&J Ensamble trial, I can tell everyone you made up the word "might", along with the rest of that sentence.

You just made it up.
BS! People in the placebo group were all given the right to withdraw from the trial after a while and instead get vaccinated.

Go and read the fine print in whatever you signed. Maybe you will learn something.
 

JohnMao

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As a placebo member of the J&J Ensamble trial, I can tell everyone you made up the word "might", along with the rest of that sentence.

You just made it up.
Why argue with an anti-vaxxer who helps people get vaccinated...? :unsure:
 

calvin-

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BS! People in the placebo group were all given the right to withdraw from the trial after a while and instead get vaccinated.

Go and read the fine print in whatever you signed. Maybe you will learn something.

Again, you just make rubbish up.

The right to withdraw, by anyone, at any time for any reason was baked in from the start.
It was not linked to unblinding or being taken off the placebo.
When unblinding occurred, extra incentives we're introduced to keep vaccinated (or in the unlikely case, unvaccinated) people on trial, the opposite of what you're making up.
 
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