Lesufi ‘devastated’ after equipment worth R3m stolen from Soweto school

[pinball wizard]

To be fair though, most school work can be achieved by a raspberry PI strapped to the back of a monitor. You might need a couple of higher end pc's here and there, but mostly, you'd be ok with raspberry PI's.

To be fair, all school work can be done using one of these:

We could be using all the millions spent on fancy crap to actually build sufficient schools and train proper teachers first.

 

[RonSwanson]

To be fair, all school work can be done using one of these:

We could be using all the millions spent on fancy crap to actually build sufficient schools and train proper teachers first.

And then perhaps the children would have proper toilets?

 

[MEIOT]

What a wasted reaction and emotion. Being devasted by the inevitable.

 

[clickingbuttons]

To be fair, all school work can be done using one of these:

We could be using all the millions spent on fancy crap to actually build sufficient schools and train proper teachers first.

But that sounds like hard work? Easier to buy fancy crap from your buddy and call it a day.

 

[Johnatan56]

Just a question - why do you discount the VAT cost - to the best of my knowledge schools are not allowed to deduct VAT?

Government procurement pays vat?

 

[GhostSixFour]

To be fair, all school work can be done using one of these:

We could be using all the millions spent on fancy crap to actually build sufficient schools and train proper teachers first.

Gonna struggle teaching kids word, excel and delphi on those. Also, you're not taking into account the amount of extra admin this places on teachers themselves - when they are already over worked - having actual tech in a classroom makes a world of difference.

 

[pinball wizard]

Gonna struggle teaching kids word, excel and delphi on those. Also, you're not taking into account the amount of extra admin this places on teachers themselves - when they are already over worked - having actual tech in a classroom makes a world of difference.

I will guarantee you that the

Esithebeni Primary School in Soweto

was NOT teaching any of those things.

Up to at least grade 9, schools in this country should be focusing on the basics. For sure in primary schools that should be the case. This garbage of computers and crap is aiming kids that can barely even read and write and do basic arithmetic at the wrong thing entirely.

The solution to this, as with most things, is do the basics right first and then worry about your overly technical issues.

Oh, and extra admin? That's really taking the pi$$ now.

 

[Gaz{M}]

You know what isn't stolen? Steel green boards and chalk sticks and paper textbooks. None of this fancy crap enhances learning one bit.

If you want to have a computer lab, fine, but then it needs to be as well guarded as a bank vault, with alarms and cameras.

 

[GhostSixFour]

I will guarantee you that the was NOT teaching any of those things.

Up to at least grade 9, schools in this country should be focusing on the basics. For sure in primary schools that should be the case. This garbage of computers and crap is aiming kids that can barely even read and write and do basic arithmetic at the wrong thing entirely.

The solution to this, as with most things, is do the basics right first and then worry about your overly technical issues.

Oh, and extra admin? That's really taking the pi$$ now.

Delphi maybe not, but the others they really should be. Kids getting exposed to computer literacy as young as possible. Also, if you're stating that they weren't doing it, please state your source, as I have to assume they were using the computers for some kind of class.

Extra admin, taking the pi$$? What is your exposure to teaching?

I'll tell you this, that we bought a projector and computer and a set of speakers for my teacher wife and it has reduced her expected work load quite a bit. I'll happily do it again.

Please, go do your work without a computer and tell me how long it takes you.

 

[pinball wizard]

Delphi maybe not, but the others they really should be. Kids getting exposed to computer literacy as young as possible. Also, if you're stating that they weren't doing it, please state your source, as I have to assume they were using the computers for some kind of class.

Extra admin, taking the pi$$? What is your exposure to teaching?

I'll tell you this, that we bought a projector and computer and a set of speakers for my teacher wife and it has reduced her expected work load quite a bit. I'll happily do it again.

Please, go do your work without a computer and tell me how long it takes you.

I will take you to a bog standard government primary school that services an income area like the one in this article and you can see for yourself if you'd like. I'll be at one this afternoon again as a matter of fact.

 

[Ancalagon]

I remember working for a quasi government (ANC owned) company back then. I needed a new development PC, so we got our preferred partner to prepare a quote for us. The quote prepared was more expensive than just getting it from Wootware, and I don't think any support was offered. I objected, pointed out how overpriced things were, and was told they were the preferred supplier and to deal with it.

Admittedly they were not over the top expensive, but I expected better pricing because of the long standing business relationship.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

Cost effective procurement from government? Not on this continent.

 

[WaxLyrical]

A smart board is anywhere between R20-90k depending on model, this is before South African taxes, import, before install, not counting that you also need a PC, etc.
Hitting R3m by just stealing smart boards and PC's is doable.

Er no.
We all know the 3 bar is "tender prices"

To think a R90k board was supplied to a Soweto is laughable.

 

[daveza]

A primary school has 3 million worth of computers while some schools have no toilets, no windows and sometimes no roof ?

At primary school you need books, pencils and exercise books - and the rest of the money gets spent on proper teachers.

 

[RaptorSA]

A primary school has 3 million worth of computers while some schools have no toilets, no windows and sometimes no roof ?

At primary school you need books, pencils and exercise books - and the rest of the money gets spent on proper teachers.

Yeah, that's common sense...
But remember, when you're busy setting up Dunning-Kruger Primary (not to be confused with Paul Kruger Primary) and you want to revolutionize the "4th African industrial revolution" you've got to throw some money into the pig pen.

 

[Tokolotshe]

I remember working for a quasi government (ANC owned) company back then. I needed a new development PC, so we got our preferred partner to prepare a quote for us. The quote prepared was more expensive than just getting it from Wootware, and I don't think any support was offered. I objected, pointed out how overpriced things were, and was told they were the preferred supplier and to deal with it.

Admittedly they were not over the top expensive, but I expected better pricing because of the long standing business relationship.

~20% markup?

I remember bulk CD's available to me at R2 each with jewel box, being sold at R12 - plus vat. I was like WTF!

 

[Ancalagon]

~20% markup?

Yeah something like that. Can't remember details. It didn't make me want to scream but it was clearly overpriced.

 

[neoprema]

Wonder which Govt-sponsored gang did this one...

 

[GhostSixFour]

I will take you to a bog standard government primary school that services an income area like the one in this article and you can see for yourself if you'd like. I'll be at one this afternoon again as a matter of fact.

Great. So redirect my question and don't answer any of it.

 

[Sarg3_ZN]

Does this make Provincial Education MEC Panyaza Lesufi a puppet of WMC, he should be cheering the decoloniztion of the school, there should be a massive party and victory parade in the streets of Soweto.