Lets say you where the SA Cricket Coach

[Noob-Noob]

i have been a cricket fanatic for years, and each and every series i get mad as hell coz they don't select the best 11 in my opinion, they don't select the best bowlers, they select out of form batsmen, they guys looks out of shape, well, if i was in the SA Coach position, with the quota system, this is what i would have done, i will through all the currant protea players back to the domestic league for a season, at the end of the season i will select my the best two openers, currently 1.I.Khan 2.H.Amla, after that i will select any three other batsmen who has scored consistently through the season, currently 3.C.Inram 4.S.Cook 5.J.Rudolph, then i will select the best wicketkeeper, keeping in mind he must be a very good batsmen as well, with a fist class average above 40, currently 6.H.Khun, now we will have to select a combination of strike bowlers and consistent bowlers, and keeping in mind they must know how to swing the bat, 7.W.Parnell (a tough choice, he is expense, but our only true left hand bowler) 8.M.Morkel (fastest bowler in SA, faster than steyn, all batsmen fear him at 150km+) 9.D.Steyn (can you say reverse swing at 148km) 10.R.Theron (SA's new Shaun Pollock, he takes wickets, and he can bowl at the depth), and last but not least, i will select a spinner who can actually spin the ball, 11.I.Tahir, i am pretty sure this team i have put together above would have preformed much better than our currant SA team, what did prince and duminy do the whole tour????, both these guys failed on 7 separate occasions, how many time do they still have to fail before you give someone who actually deserves a spot in the SA team a chance? Albie Morkel cant bat to save his life, not to mention his poor bowling, Greame smith, im so sick and tired of him always getting out LBW, he might make my team batting at nr5, but he is defnintly not a opener, Gibbs = INCONSISTANT, AB de Villiers, well, he has to prove himself again, i would really like to see him with the keeper gloves, but i believe he must first keep for his doestic team for at least 2 seasons for him to get the feeling

well. i would love to hear your opinions?

 

[Mamajyot]

Imran khan is useless against quality seemers. He wont do any better than duminy...

 

[killadoob]

Imran khan is useless against quality seemers. He wont do any better than duminy...

Dude a 16 year old kid playing out his backyard could score more runs than duminy at the moment . He may get off the mark while duminy i always think will go first ball.

 

[cr@zydude]

If I "where" the SA coach I'm not too sure exactly what would happen to me.

As for selections you need to remember that the MTN 40 is not ODI level and SS series in nowhere near test level. I agree that JP and AB are way out of form and should be dropped. Ashwell I'm not sure, he is not an opener, but I think that he should play in th emiddle order. Also, where the hell is Kallis, SA's best player?

 

[Esea]

you dumbass your selection is based on the current Sa domestic season that most of the SA Squad has not playin in or at most played 1 game here and there

 

[Tarantula]

If I "where" the SA coach I'm not too sure exactly what would happen to me.

As for selections you need to remember that the MTN 40 is not ODI level and SS series in nowhere near test level. I agree that JP and AB are way out of form and should be dropped. Ashwell I'm not sure, he is not an opener, but I think that he should play in th emiddle order. Also, where the hell is Kallis, SA's best player?

JP needs to go that is for sure. But AB???? Did you guys not watch the last two one day internationals against India? Two hundreds, and one of them off 59 balls. AB is a quality bat and definitely needs to be there.

Smith is also a great player and needs stay in the side. Not only is he a quality bat, but his captaincy is excellent.

Albie Morkel needs to go. He is the biggest problem in our one day squad, along with quotas.

 

[Noob-Noob]

Dude a 16 year old kid playing out his backyard could score more runs than duminy at the moment . He may get off the mark while duminy i always think will go first ball.

i agree!!!!, Duminy cant bat to save his life, we could have put an allrounder in his place, or somebody wo actually preformed in the domestic league, S.Cook scored something like 360 in a match, breaking all SA records, Duminy broke the SA record for going out 7 times in a row to a LBW under 10 runs.....do the math....

 

[Noob-Noob]

you dumbass your selection is based on the current Sa domestic season that most of the SA Squad has not playin in or at most played 1 game here and there

yeah, DUMBASS and what exactly would the currant SA squad have done in the domestic league??????, go and have a look at the first class averages on cricinfo.com before you dazzle us with your cricket wisdom

 

[Noob-Noob]

Don't get me wrong, i like AB, he has the skills, but his form in the test series was not all that great, i think Smith would have done better if he does not have to face the new ball

 

[cr@zydude]

JP needs to go that is for sure. But AB???? Did you guys not watch the last two one day internationals against India? Two hundreds, and one of them off 59 balls. AB is a quality bat and definitely needs to be there.

Smith is also a great player and needs stay in the side. Not only is he a quality bat, but his captaincy is excellent.

Albie Morkel needs to go. He is the biggest problem in our one day squad, along with quotas.

You're right that AB did well in the last 2 ODI's but overall it was a bad tour for him. Luckily he has the IPL and World T20 before the next test series, hopefully he's back to his brilliant self by then.

 

[superskully]

AB is a world class batsmen. But he does not do well under pressure - when we need him the most, he fails (most of the time anyway).
I hope though with experience, he will get better.
Duminy is another top batsmen, but bowlers have worked him out. He needs to go back to domestic and we will see if he can make it back.
Our one day squad really misses Pollock and maybe Theron could be the answer. No use havin Steyn, Parnell and Morkey taking wickets but giving away runs while van der merve and botha (no ****ra) - batsmen have worked them out as well.

 

[Esea]

couldnt care less the coach works whit who ever the selectors give him what you do need to do is make sure the players know that if they dont perform they get replaced We tend to "play" people back into form. O and GIVE RUSTY

 

[Noob-Noob]

the bowlers i selected was actually for the TEST series, the thing is we don't really have any good ODI bowlers, the only one is Rusty and they don't wanna give him a chance, Ntini is looking better since he has been playing domestic, i also don't know what to think of Plaatjies, his records looks good, but when you see this guy in action you wont select him , what would your ODI bowling line up look like?

 

[Mr Natural]

AB???? Did you guys not watch the last two one day internationals against India? Two hundreds, and one of them off 59 balls. AB is a quality bat and definitely needs to be there.

Thanks god. Reading all these "AB's out of form" -posts, I thought I was going crazy. Drop JP, drop [-]Duminy[/-] Prince - those guys will be back to form at some stage, but let's keep what we've got that's working.

Tahir is not eligble. I forget when he does become eligible, but I don't feel too bad about that because CSA have also forgotten.

 

[akescpt]

i would get rid of the 'burger king' captain for a start...its become the 'greame smith eleven' and not the proteas....he has too much power and that is never good...someone needs to smack that big mac out of his hand and tell him to do a few laps!!

i have always maintained that duminy's rise has been too fast...he hasnt learnt his craft yet...when prince got fit he should have been dropped immediately to the bench..if abie doesnt want to stand wicketkeeper he should go...this team is accomodating too many players...abie is more than a decent wicketkeeper..if he takes over we can play an extra batting or bowling specialist....

this is why the australians are so ruthless..if you not performing u gone..plain and simple...and that has to be admired...if you on form you get your chance...

 

[Mr Natural]

Why don't people give Boucher the recognition he deserves? That guy is the best wicket keeper in the world at the moment and is batting well too. And you want to replace him with a part-timer??

this is why the australians are so ruthless..if you now performing u gone..palin and simple...and that has to be admired...if you on form you get your chance...

Oh, like the way they kept Hayden in the team so we could get a free wicket per innings for that entire series?

Selection is a lot more tricky when you have to get out of your armchair.

 

[Noob-Noob]

i would get rid of the 'burger king' captain for a start...its become the 'greame smith eleven' and not the proteas....he has too much power and that is never good...someone needs to smack that big mac out of his hand and tell him to do a few laps!!

i have always maintained that duminy's rise has been too fast...he hasnt learnt his craft yet...when prince got fit he should have been dropped immediately to the bench..if abie doesnt want to stand wicketkeeper he should go...this team is accomodating too many players...abie is more than a decent wicketkeeper..if he takes over we can play an extra batting or bowling specialist....

this is why the Australians are so ruthless..if you not performing u gone..plain and simple...and that has to be admired...if you on form you get your chance...

funny how the Aussies stay number 1, even when they are not no1 on the rankings, 2 years ago they where on a rebuilding phase, look at them now, SA has been on a rebuilding phase for 8 to 9 years now, with no success, we are only able to beat teams with extremely bad form, and then we think its coz we are so good, there are only 2 gr8 cricket teams, and that India and Australia, even England swept the floor with us in the ODI's

 

[Noob-Noob]

Why don't people give Boucher the recognition he deserves? That guy is the best wicket keeper in the world at the moment and is batting well too. And you want to replace him with a part-timer??


Oh, like the way they kept Hayden in the team so we could get a free wicket per innings for that entire series?

Selection is a lot more tricky when you have to get out of your armchair.

i disagree, boucher is good, but not the best in the world, these days your wicky needs to be a specialized batsmen as well, if it was only for wicket keeping then boucher for sure, but in the new age of cricket, you cant take that chance.....

 

[graviti]

Being a cricket coach myself, I don't necessarily agree with many peoples opinions. Try looking at a persons performance over a season and it can paint a pretty picture. Ashwell Prince is proof of the hug gap between local and international standards. Quacking out regularly for the Proteas, he walks into the local leagues and scores freely. Gets called back up, and still can't get off the mark. I agree, he needs more domestic time. JP Duminy is definitely out of touch, and needs some local time to rebuild his confidence. He is invaluable as a player, but needs to get back into the right mindframe. As for the dumbass's who keep picking on Graeme Smith and AB de Villiers, try doing a little homework. In the last 13 tests, Smith is averaging over 50 (52,94) (AS AN OPENER!!! SHOCK HORROR GASP), including 4 hundreds and 4 fifties. Only 6 times less than 10. So surely that cannot be considered a failure as opening batsman.

AB de Villiers last 13 tests, avg of 39, 3 hundreds, 7 50's. 6 innings less than 10. Again, not shabby.

Gibbs is pushing on in years, is still athletic and scoring the odd runs (last century in 2005), but maybe needs to be giving way for someone younger for long term plans. Mark Boucher may be old, but is still the worlds best keeper. In this regards, the stats don't lie. Look at the Aussie unit of 5 years ago. Why were they the best. Because they didn't chop and change their squad. Neither did Mickey Arthur, and hence the fact we got to Number 1 in both forms of the game. A bad start to the season has never been recovered from, and chopping the side is not the best idea. You are not really giving the team a chance to develop the skill of pulling themselves out of trouble. We keep trying quick fixes, which generally means finding in form players from domestic leagues, only to watch them suffer at the top level. Rather than claim to be a brilliant strategist and calling the current selectors dorks, lets just worry about doing what WE do best. Support our countries cricket side.

just my 2c

 

[Mr Natural]

funny how the Aussies stay number 1, even when they are not no1 on the rankings, 2 years ago they where on a rebuilding phase, look at them now

Sure, they're able to clobber Pak and WI, never the world's most stable teams, and now two losses down to NZ who are not really the best team in the world.