Lion rips off toddler's scalp at Heilbron lion park

gamer16

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I love these people who say well why would you go pet a lion cub? What a stupid thing to say, of course you would you bunch of city born driveling c,unts, its a baby lion anyone would want to pet it ffs.
 

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this is what they want you to believe happens, the reality is somewhat different. The animals are inbred and have a host of health problems which aren't treated (or prevented) because they are just going to die. They are not housed or fed properly in many instances for the same reason. Also contrary to popular belief the money does not benefit conservation. The whole industry needs to be shut down.
There's plenty wrong with these glorified zoos, but there's plenty wrong in the way we farm most animals commercially. Chickens and cattle aren't endangered species because of commercial farming, this is just commercial farming with lions.

If we don't allow this(or hunting), then there is no reason for private person's to keep lion's. If you breed them like this you also need to kill quite a few regularly to keep the proper population levels.
Lions in the wild are territorial, they kill each other and they eat a lot. So what else must be done will the abundance of lions if the can't be harvested.
 

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What's your problem with hunting. The lions have a good life, get food, don't starve and then one day die. It adds economic value to the lions in the form of tourism/and hunting, these zoos rake in a lot of money, so that we can keep many lions alive and breeding, which is ultimately good for conservation.

The only problem here was that a big lion could have reached the people.
What did the parents do wrong? And what book do people want to throw at them?
You sure about that?



South Africa: Starving Captive Lions Photographed at Trophy Hunting Property

Captive lions rescued from horrific conditions on North West farm

“Upon arrival, the inspectors were horrified to find two lion cubs that were unable to walk and appeared to be showing signs they were suffering from a neurological condition.”

“Other issues such as small enclosures and inadequate shelter, no provision of water, overcrowding, and filthy and parasitic conditions were noted in the camps that contained lion, caracal, tiger, and leopard. Twenty-seven lions had mange and the caracal were obese, unable to properly groom themselves.
Very healthy looking lions, yes?

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Fvck these lion farms and the people that support them.
 

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There's plenty wrong with these glorified zoos, but there's plenty wrong in the way we farm most animals commercially. Chickens and cattle aren't endangered species because of commercial farming, this is just commercial farming with lions.

If we don't allow this(or hunting), then there is no reason for private person's to keep lion's. If you breed them like this you also need to kill quite a few regularly to keep the proper population levels.
Lions in the wild are territorial, they kill each other and they eat a lot. So what else must be done will the abundance of lions if the can't be harvested.
You are really ignorant of the facts. A wild lion is a lion. A captive bred lion with human interaction is a glorified tabby cat which can be lethal. There is no conservation in captive lion breeding for petting or hunting or bones or skins or any other reason.
 

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You cannot breed a lion and release it into the wild. It’s not conservation. It’s all a money making racket.
Why do they it need to be released into the wild. These lions satisfy to demand for lion products which in turn keep wild lions safe from poaching.

If we didn't have this then the lion bone trade would just become another rhino horn problem.
 
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One bad farm. That's a specific incident of animal cruelty and that owner should face the same punishment we give anyone else who doesn't properly feed or breed any animals or he should just be fed to the lions.
 

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Why does it need to be released into the wild. These lions satisfy to demand for lion products which in turn keep wild lions safe from poaching.
You’re missing the point. People visit these “sanctuaries” / “parks” / “rescue centers” under the impression that what is there is conservation and natural - its simply not. To use your analogy there’s no commercial farmer offering chicken petting or walking with cows. To say it’s conservation by decoy is ridiculous.
 

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You’re missing the point. People visit these “sanctuaries” / “parks” / “rescue centers” under the impression that what is there is conservation and natural - its simply not. To use your analogy there’s no commercial farmer offering chicken petting or walking with cows. To say it’s conservation by decoy is ridiculous.
Alright, so what?
 

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Anyone that has ever taken a child to a lion park or any big cat park would know how the big cats focus on the little kids , they dont take their eyes off the kids. Im sure its their natural instinct to always go for the smallest / weakest prey.
 

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Poor little kid but really the parents are idiots .
I still remember the time the Taiwanese tourists got out their car at the lion park , that turned out well.
 

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Because what our tourism economy really needs is more of this BS. It’s definitely not good for the actual conservationists.
Nope, it isn't good, and you are right we certainly don't need more, ok? Done.
 

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You’re missing the point. People visit these “sanctuaries” / “parks” / “rescue centers” under the impression that what is there is conservation and natural - its simply not. To use your analogy there’s no commercial farmer offering chicken petting or walking with cows. To say it’s conservation by decoy is ridiculous.
No it's not ridiculous. And if we do the same with Rhino( allow them to be farmed for their horns, in reasonable conditions the same as other animals) then we wouldn't have a problem with them being poached in the wild.

You are also completely ignorant around all the thousands of petting zoos that exists for "farm" animals. Interacting with chickens and cows is definitely a thing.
 

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No it's not ridiculous. And if we do the same with Rhino( allow them to be farmed for their horns, in reasonable conditions the same as other animals) then we wouldn't have a problem with them being poached in the wild.

You are also completely ignorant around all the thousands of petting zoos that exists for "farm" animals.
No that's a kak idea, however it is the only way. The Americans had a better solution to this needing of bits of animals problem, it was in the 1940's and it was called little boy.
 

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No that's a kak idea, however it is the only way. The Americans had a better solution to this needing of bits of animals problem, it was in the 1940's and it was called little boy.
Unless you are a vegan you also use many animal products.
 

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Unless you are a vegan you also use many animal products.
I'm more referring to things like the ivory trade and so on, those that unnecessarily harm animals very badly, me eating some cow isn't nearly as bad to the animal as they tend to be treated quite decent, no more murdering them by hammers or chopping them up alive as Africans would do.
 
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