Liquor industry associations take out full-page ad to attack alcohol ban in South Africa

[Jan]

Alcohol ban in South Africa slammed

South African Breweries (SAB), the National Liquor Traders Council, and the Beer Association of South Africa have taken a front-page wrap advertisement in the Sunday Times to slam the government's decision to implement another alcohol ban.

The ban was implemented as part of the adjusted level 4 lockdown measures amid a surge of new Covid-19 cases due to the outbreak of the more dangerous Delta variant in South Africa.

"Dear National Coronavirus Command Council, give them an explanation that their families will understand", the advertisement reads, followed by a long list of taverns across South Africa that were forced to close.

"These are just some of the 45,000 taverns across South Africa — compound that number by the families and communities that rely on them and begin to see the gravity of the impact of the latest alcohol ban," the ad stated.

 

[bwana]

The government doesn't care about legal courts why would they care about the ones of public opinion?

I wonder what they would do if all the pubs, tavern, shabeens, and bottle stores just decided they were going to open.

 

[C4Cat]

The government doesn't care about legal courts why would they care about the ones of public opinion?

And why would the liquor industry care about public health?

 

[RudderVator]

Well maybe if the Government would start being more genuine with the reasons for why alcohol is banned.
They say it is to reduce trauma cases. We all know that to be a load of crock instead just say that Alcohol promotes the gathering of people?

People party and they drink with it is available. But also admit that your lack of enforcement abilities from a failed police service is what brought us here with this blunt hammer method of enforcement where it is simply impossible for them to enforce certain rules so rather take a blanket approach such as early curfew and complete bans to make it easier.

Ocean basket cannot serve alcohol and so cant the club down the road claiming to be a "restaurant" because they serve a hotdog yet everyone moves around and mingles indoors with no mask.

 

[bwana]

And why would the liquor industry care about public health?

Because dead people don't drink?

How would you feel if the government said you're not allowed to earn an income for the next two weeks, how about four, how about all those weeks they previously banned the sale of alcohol for?

 

[Lupus]

They should just tell the truth, there are a certain demographic that doesn't obey the rules. It's the one they are thinking will not go buy black market booze over the bans anyway.
Wish they would do this without having the curfew and see if it does the same

 

[TelkomUseless]

The government doesn't care about legal courts why would they care about the ones of public opinion?

I wonder what they would do if all the pubs, tavern, shabeens, and bottle stores just decided they were going to open.

I agree. Everyone should just open... government doesn't give a fck.

 

[ShaunSA]

And why would the liquor industry care about public health?

They don't. Same with the motor vehicle industry and their cars.

Ban them all!

See what happens when you can't reason properly?

 

[C4Cat]

Because dead people don't drink?

How would you feel if the government said you're not allowed to earn an income for the next two weeks, how about four, how about all those weeks they previously banned the sale of alcohol for?

I'm just saying there are competing concerns here. Public health is not a concern for the liquor industry. Profit is their main concern. Yes, it is bad if you can't work. It's also bad if you need emergency medical treatment and can't get it because the doctors and nurses are overworked and unavailable and there is no space for you.

 

[C4Cat]

They should just tell the truth, there are a certain demographic that doesn't obey the rules. It's the one they are thinking will not go buy black market booze over the bans anyway.
Wish they would do this without having the curfew and see if it does the same

What demographic are you talking about?

 

[C4Cat]

Well maybe if the Government would start being more genuine with the reasons for why alcohol is banned.
They say it is to reduce trauma cases. We all know that to be a load of crock instead just say that Alcohol promotes the gathering of people

Actually both of those are valid reasons. It's not a crock, it does reduce trauma cases, the research is clear on that. You are also correct that alcohol lowers inhibitions

 

[C4Cat]

They don't. Same with the motor vehicle industry and their cars.

Ban them all!

See what happens when you can't reason properly?

Yes, shaun, you've demonstrated very well that you can't reason properly. Thank you

 

[Herr der Verboten]

/lit a braai

someone else will fix this...

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Actually both of those are valid reasons. It's not a crock, it does reduce trauma cases, the research is clear on that. You are also correct that it lowers inhibitions

and stats? oh wait is common sense

no stats, but blom approved. country loves its dumbfucks.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

And why would the liquor industry care about public health?

Only the liquor industry? Liquor can't be legally sold to under 18's but the food industry can sell the biggest long term killers and disease causing substances unrestricted and even freely available to children - Sugar and unrestricted carbohydrates.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I'm just saying there are competing concerns here. Public health is not a concern for the liquor industry. Profit is their main concern. Yes, it is bad if you can't work. It's also bad if you need emergency medical treatment and can't get it because the doctors and nurses are overworked and unavailable and there is no space for you.

Neither is public health the concern ot the taxi industry, food industry and any other business. Profit is their main concern too.

Some critical thinking required before you try to promote the propaganda the SSA pays you to disseminate.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I'm just saying there are competing concerns here. Public health is not a concern for the liquor industry. Profit is their main concern. Yes, it is bad if you can't work. It's also bad if you need emergency medical treatment and can't get it because the doctors and nurses are overworked and unavailable and there is no space for you.

The original lockdown was to give time to get medical facilities in place. Where are they?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

What demographic are you talking about?

Suggest you review some footage of taxi driver chaos, looters, arsonists and people dancing in the streets because they're unhappy. I'm sure they have plenty on file at the SSA. Check the demographic and report back.

 

[C4Cat]

Only the liquor industry? Liquor can't be legally sold to under 18's but the food industry can sell the biggest long term killers and disease causing substances unrestricted and even freely available to children - Sugar and unrestricted carbohydrates.

We're talking about preventing emergency room and ICU cases in order to free up staff and space. How is banning sugar going to do that?

 

[C4Cat]

Neither is public health the concern ot the taxi industry, food industry and any other business. Profit is their main concern too.

Public health is one of the many concerns of the government which needs to tread a line in taking all these competing concerns into account. The taxi industry and other businesses are a concern yes, and keeping them profitable is also a concern. So what's your point?

Some critical thinking required before you try to promote the propaganda the SSA pays you to disseminate.

No need for personal insults and unfounded personal accusations here. We can debate like grown ups.