Liverpool FC supporters thread - 2017/18 Season

Vis1/0N

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Been on Dstv now for most of the match with the other eye on Spurs-City. Not sure how I feel about the result. Want city to be occupied with CL, but also want Spurs to give them a punch in the gut.

Hopefully spurs carries the momentum to beat them in the weekend. 1.30 first game this Saturday.
 

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Been on Dstv now for most of the match with the other eye on Spurs-City. Not sure how I feel about the result. Want city to be occupied with CL, but also want Spurs to give them a punch in the gut.

Hopefully spurs carries the momentum to beat them in the weekend. 1.30 first game this Saturday.
On the flip side their confidence is shut by this result. Spurs will feel like they can take city on even this weekend. Believe me city are tired and demoralized after this and Guadiola is very frustrated and unsure about he's teams performance.
 

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Even if they beat spurs, they'll be tired against a resurgent United who needs a performance to ease the pain with the home fans. So I guess either a draw this weekend or Wednesday against united.

Guardiola are under pressure now to win the epl and have to beat spurs and city within 4 days of either other after this result.

I'm lovin it'
 

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Oh the potential backlash. They have the squad. I want them to stumble. I really do. We all do. Hopefully they do. But it won’t be cause they tired I reckon. Spurs will then also be tired by that logic.
 

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LFC update

{Ed002's Note - Need G, CB, LB/ RB cover and LM - could look to a Creative AM player (along the lines of Fekir (as an example) ) and drop Shaqiri and Keita down the pecking order The club would also need to replace Salah, Mane or Firmino if any were to leave.

GK - Liverpool should look for someone who can be trusted, is older, homegrown and can help with the younger goalkeepers and youth coaching

RB is a difficult position for Liverpool to address unless TAA is moved to midfield (as Ed001 tells me is the plan) and a new first team player arrives - although finding space for TAA in midfield still looks tough to me. There is no natural RB in the U23s who can step up, or so I am told, but we also know that Gomez can provide cover as well. In terms of who the club has looked at, I can only say that I am aware of one player, but no doubt there will be others:
Kenny Lala (RB/ RM) only just signed a new contract Racing Strasbourg but has been looked at by the club - not sure if he would be available
If you were to ask me who I think is a viable option but the club has shown no interest in, I would say Valentino Lazaro (RM/ RW/ RB) who would be a great fix for providing cover for the whole right hand side.

The situation at LB is rather different as there is an up and coming player able to step in to Moreno’s position of providing cover. However, I keep being reminded that thought persist about Lloyd Kelly (LB/ CB) who has been used more in the CB role as Bristol City have a young LB on loan who is clearly preferred. I cannot say whether or not there is any firm interest in Lloyd Kelly (CB), but I can say that Liverpool have looked at a couple of younger CBs as I have explained and other potential options like both Lloyd Kelly and Aidan Wilson who have been "recommended" to the club by an "agent" who may be open to cutting corners (and would be the last person on earth to discuss any of this with me) . More than that I cannot say without some issues arising.
So my advice would be to utilise what the club has or risk losing him:
Adam Lewis (LB) I think he should be promoted to provide cover, in which case LB cover becomes less of an issue
I cannot answer what the club’s views are on Juanma (LB/ CB) but it doesn’t look like he will be able to make the step up given what we have seen in the past 18 months appearance/ bench wise.

CB is easier to deal with but one thing to be remembered is that if Liverpool are to bring in a first pick CB then Gomez becomes available to play or cover either FB position in addition to CB. Although if a ub and coming CB like Godrey or Fry were signed, then Gomez would likely be first pick and they could replace Matip perhaps?
Diego Llorente (CB) has been watched by Marseille, Spurs, Atletico Madrid, Liverpool, West Ham, Fulham and Sevilla since joining Real Sociedad in the summer - Spurs could be tempted as they expect TA to leave – and I would not rule out a Liverpool offer
Dael Fry (CB) Liverpool has a declared interest in Fry as they look to bolster the HG quota - knowing that prices will increase - much is expected of Fry
Ben Godfrey (CB) - an option to Fry
Ruben Dias (CB) Liverpool have watched the Benfica CB on several occasions and watched him in a national game against Croatia in September - however, he is heading elsewhere
de ligt (CB) I am not aware of any de Ligt rumours involving Liverpool and they have certainly not expressed any interest – although many of the fans have raised the issue repeatedly. Dayot Upamecano is similar in that Liverpool has shown no interest but people still ask about.
Francisco Ferreira (CB) has also been mentioned and I will remind regular readers that was one of the three young CBs Liverpool looked at in 2017 with a view to taking one in January 2018. He is priced the way he is in order to turn any potential buyers away, such as Manchester City, West Ham and Borussia Dortmund who have also shown a little interest and watched him in the B side over the past 18 months. Anecdotally, the other two were Modibo Sagnan (he will be moving to Real Sociedad in the summer) and Perr Schuurs (he was expected to join Liverpool at 18 – but moved to Ajax) .
And my thoughts on who Liverpool should look to: Jorge Mere (CB) of Cologne, Marseille's Boubacar Kamara (CB) and RBL's Ibrahima Konate (CB) – all young with expectations set very high.

In terms of the DM position I doubt Liverpool will look to adding anyone unless there is a plan to change the way they play, but:
Sandro Tonali (DM) there has been interest from Liverpool but he is going to be very expensive and it is hard to see where he will fit in – I expect him to stay in Italy

Midfield CM is not a position where much is likely to happen but Liverpool need Lallana to be available more often or look to replace him with a LM player:
Nicolo Barella (CM) Whilst it is true that Nicolo Barella is of interest to Liverpool and has been watched a couple of times recently, he is being priced at the very top end of his market value, and Barella has made it clear that he wants to be a starter and stay in Italy - so difficult unless Liverpool plan to move Naby Keïta on to raise the money and make space in the side, it seems an unlikely move. is not a position where much is likely to happen
Diego Laxalt (LM) Long term interest will come to nothing as he looks to be heading elsewhere
Bruno Fernandes (AM) is of interest to Everton, Manchester United, Milan and Liverpool who have all looked at him on two or more occasions. Spurs maintain an interest but only if Christian Eriksen leaves. Asking price has more than doubled from what was already a high price in recent months and that has pushed aside interest from Juventus who don't see the value, Valencia and CSKA. Whilst Bayern Munich and another EPL side have looked as well, neither have a declared interest that I know of and both have other AM targets.
Julian Brandt (LW/ AM) if he is available Liverpool will be one of the interested clubs – and I expect him to be available and the focus of attention.
Joao Felix (AM) is not a player Liverpool has spoken to his club about and a lot of efforts are being made to finalise a move elsewhere.

Wings and Forwards:
Paulo Dybala (AM/ RW/ F) is another one of the nailed on players that is perhaps not as nailed on as people think – however, he is available and Juventus are open not use him in a little horse trading for either Icardi (who is likely heading elsewhere) or Salah (whose “agent” has been knocking on their door for a while trying to make a move happen). Would be a decent Salah replacement.
Nicolas Pepe (RW) two sides are in discussions with Lille and Liverpool has no declared interest – if they did it would be as a Salah replacement – I would not hold your breath
Federico Chiesa (RW) significant interest from elsewhere and Fiorentina planning on pricing him out of a move at something like €120M, Liverpool has shown no interest, but if they do it would be as a Salah replacement
Lorenzo Insigne (LW) – has been mentioned regularly but would be a Salah or Mane replacement but very, very expensive €150M asking price
Everton (LW) Manchester City don't see value in the €50M asking price and Milan see him as a potential option – I am not aware of any declared interest from Liverpool
Thorgan Hazard (LW/ AM) Borussia Monchengladbach have confirmed discussions with one club, the interest of another and that their player have been watched by a number of sides including Liverpool – there are apparently no offers on the table and no further discussions are planned before the end of the season – so currently no more than a tenuous link
Timo Werner (S) It has been reported by the Fat Kid from Bolton that a deal for Werner was agreed with RBL in January – it wasn’t. Someone else (whose name escapes me) has apparently said again recently that the deal with RBL is agreed and it is just the salary deal to be figured out – this is all news to Leipzig who have been speaking to Bayern Munich trying to agree a price. There has certainly be interest from Klopp but right now there is no deal in place at all. It is had to see how Werner would fit in unless there is a change of style.
Silas Wamangituka (S) I am not aware of any declaration of interest from Liverpool in Silas Wamangituka but he has certainly been watched by them so it is certainly possible it will come. Barcelona and numerous other sides, including several from England such as Brighton, Leicester and Spurs have also taken a look. A problem the English sides have is he will never be eligible to be home grown and would likely not get a work permit - whereas Barcelona don't have any such issues. I would not hold your breath.

Outbound (perhaps) :

Simon Mignolet (G) maybe
Loris Karius (G)

Alberto Moreno (LB)

Nathaniel Clyne (RB)

Joel Matip (CB) will make way if a new CB is to be added

Marco Grujic (CM) perhaps another loan, no assurance he will get a WP in England
James Milner (CM/ RM) perhaps
Adam Lallana (LM)
Alan (CM) can't get a WP - a further loan to Fluminese

Sheyi Ojo (RW)
Harry Wilson (RW) needs to make a decision and talk to the club to see if there will ever be a chance for him at Liverpool - there is serious interest in him now
Ryan Kent (LW)

Divock Origi (F) perhaps but right now I expect him to stay
Daniel Sturridge (S)
Bobby Adekanye (S)
Taiwo Awoniyi (S) won't get a WP
Danny Ings (F) }.
 

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I don't think anything is cut and dry, believe me we going to see city drop point against any of their remaining games if not united.

We all supporting united for a few days now :X3::ROFL:
 

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Took a while to read. I don't know much about trading players so my son had to explain this to me. I stupidly thought there was loyalty involved lol - not just a business. How likely do you think it is that we could lose any of the forwards?

And how likely do you think it is that City will lose to United ?
 

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Took a while to read. I don't know much about trading players so my son had to explain this to me. I stupidly thought there was loyalty involved lol - not just a business. How likely do you think it is that we could lose any of the forwards?

And how likely do you think it is that City will lose to United ?
It’s always been a business, but getting into the weeds of transfer rumors is never a good idea. Liverpool get their business done early, and when you see new players in the jersey, the deal is done... ‘Till then, basically ignore 99% of everything you read about who’s coming and who’s leaving.

Then,

Couts played 201 games for Liverpool and scored 54 goals. We sold him for £142M with add-ons... Second biggest transfer ever.
Suarez played 133 games for Liverpool and scored 82 goals. We got £64,98 for him.

But...

Mo’s played 98 and scored 67
Sadio‘s played 116 and scored 55
Bobby’s played 189 and scored 66

If anyone comes knocking, they’ll need the biggest checkbook in all of football.



Also... For the players, staying at Liverpool might just mean staying with the EPL champions, the CL champions... or both... or neither... I’ll let you know what the gods say about it after I sacrifice my first-born later today.
 
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