Local deli saves thousands by switching to Bank Zero

ToxicBunny

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100 fold more transactions???

Interesting attempt at an advert Bank Zero but you should avoid the hyperbole, it just makes you look stupid.
 

Arthur

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So either Bank Zero are on the path to bankruptcy or they're making up their revenue by keeping more of the interest earned on customer deposits.
 

konfab

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So either Bank Zero are on the path to bankruptcy or they're making up their revenue by keeping more of the interest earned on customer deposits.
And by running a very efficient operation. Not having branches filled with 90 IQ employees saves $$$$.

Bank zero is really good IMO. Their relationship banking service is fantastic. Only thing they need to do IMO is get browser-based banking. Using an app for everything is a bit of a PITA. I like having a big screen and keyboard.
 

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There is no way in the current universe their transaction costs are <2% of a "big bank", as the advert above suggests (R112 in fees, vs R8936 at another bank). Sure big banks have vast infrastructure costs, but their cost per transaction is surprisingly low, from economies of scale ... much like a baseload power station has huge plant costs (capex and operational), etc, but their cost per kWh generated is lower than almost every other generator, especially small ones.

I know nothing about Bank Zero's service and responsiveness, nor their Ts&Cs. But I do know something about bank transaction costs, esp when it comes to IT infrastructure.

They seem to be appealing to that segment of the market that is very sensitive to bank fees, and that's quite legitimate of course. But they can't get away with pretending their operations are so efficient that they can cut fees to a tiny fraction of others. All else being equal (eg capitalisation, deposit management, statutory balance sheet cover, etc) if a bank is to survive it must make a reasonable margin. I hope Bank Zero is doing so, but they obviously aren't making money on fees so they must be making it elsewhere, and that can only be on playing customer deposits in various markets. All banks do that, but if you have less revenue from fees then you need to make that up from profits earned elsewhere, and those options are very limited, and that necessarily mean less distributed to their depositors/customers than would otherwise be the case.
 

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Their PR team need to cool their heels. Lemon and Lime would need to be paying paying around R20 per EFT and doing around 50 EFTs a month to generate those fees. Looking at my local "Big Bank" they give you a bundle that includes 50 EFTs for R280 (with a few other freebies)
 

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Their PR team need to cool their heels. Lemon and Lime would need to be paying paying around R20 per EFT and doing around 50 EFTs a month to generate those fees. Looking at my local "Big Bank" they give you a bundle that includes 50 EFTs for R280 (with a few other freebies)

Yup, and if the story is even vaguely accurate its more an indication that Lemon and Lime were just being daft with their "Big Bank" account.
 

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Their PR team need to cool their heels. Lemon and Lime would need to be paying paying around R20 per EFT and doing around 50 EFTs a month to generate those fees. Looking at my local "Big Bank" they give you a bundle that includes 50 EFTs for R280 (with a few other freebies)
So still saving R2000+ going with BZ? Lol.
 

neoprema

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R8k at the big bank in fees? What are they laundering for the mafia or something? You have to push some absolutely insane volumes to get that kinda service fees.
 

rvZA

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Bank Zero still have a very long way to go before offering a real banking service. For now it is a watered-down, limited money management service on your behalf. The bank still are not integrated properly on payment systems. It cannot accept pay and clear services. Many other services, one of which Easy Equities, cannot even connect automatically to the bank to verify account ownership and require 3 months bank statements from users.

I hope for their sake they shape up and speed up towards proper banking or they will simply disappear of the next few years.
 
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