Local ownership for sea cable — minister

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I'm guessing she wants only people that look like her to own the cables :rolleyes:
 
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Where the hell is that link of IC's about napalm? :mad:
 
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ShaunSA said:
I'm guessing she wants only people that look like her to own the cables :rolleyes:
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! good one :D
otherwise...

O-M-F-G!? and how is this supposed to help us? Oh right she is so stupid she is beyond help :rolleyes:
 
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Sheesh. I wish this woman would get fired already. Surely ANY cables coming into the country, be they SA owned or not, will help to reduce pricing... Maybe if she paid her own freaking phone / internet bill she would have a bit more concern about this!
 
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Why can't ivy just shut up and cash her cheque each month?

In a reference to MTN’s Middle East expansion, she said: “Some of our companies have been paying half a billion dollars to do business elsewhere so I am not sure where the constraints for South African companies could be.”
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The government had to make that investment itself “because business is now queasy about having to invest so much in infrastructure when they don’t know what’s going to happen on the continent,” Matsepe-Casaburri said.
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Are these statements not completely contradictory? First she says local companies should not have a problem coming up with the money, and then she says government is stepping in because local business is "queasy". :confused:

And why do you think people are unsure what is going to happen to the continent? Because people like you want to stick an ignorant finger in everything.

We finally get a slithering of hope for some affordable bandwidth and the government has to screw it all up :mad:
 
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Matsepe-Casaburri said she was not worried that the regulations would deter investors, which could simply opt to bypass SA.
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Of course she isn't. Why would she be worried? It's not like we need foreign investment now do we?
 
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And ounce again government uses BEE to thwart any improvement in the connectivity of SA to the world..

I am counting down the months till i leave this country...

This government has got no foresight or interest in South Africa as a whole. They look purely after there own interests.

This can be seen in numerous posts, governments part ownership in Telkom is one.

Now they will scare away investors with this crap. Why would an international company willing want to give 51% of there business away to local players who nine times out of ten do not put up half the capitol for any venture?

I see HP are BEE exempt now, I know they turned round and said they would never give part of there company to any investment partner here in SA. SA market is only 2% of there turnover..

IVY and her collegues need to be fired for GROSS incompetence, Negligence and FRAUD!
 
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Poison Ivy said:
In a reference to MTN’s Middle East expansion, she said: “Some of our companies have been paying half a billion dollars to do business elsewhere so I am not sure where the constraints for South African companies could be.”
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Let me give you a hint, you stupid sycophantic cow: It's YOU.

Die, die die, and take Telkom and your whole Department of Communication with you when you go...
 
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“because business is now queasy about having to invest so much in infrastructure when they don’t know what’s going to happen on the continent,”

Because stupid effing idiots like her make stupid effing decisions that make people queasy.

Yet another classic example of African grab-what-you-can-now-and-screw-the-long-term-consequences. These people are so frikking short sighted.

I give up trying to be positive about this country and the future here... it's like trying to drink water using a fork.
 
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Self-sabotage: Editorial Comment from BusinessDay

This really is excellent:
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/opinion.aspx?ID=BD4A561318
THE government’s attitude to private sector investment in infrastructure is becoming ever more bizarre.

It complains that the private sector is not coming to the infrastructure party. But as soon as private sector operators show their willingness to invest billions of rands in any kind of network infrastructure that SA desperately needs, the government hastens to put obstacles in place that seem aimed at driving private sector investors away. Even more bizarre is that if the private sector comes along with huge sums to invest, in a new fuel pipeline or an undersea telecommunications cable, the government says, in effect: “No, don’t you do that, we want it for ourselves.” After all, why should local and international financiers pay when SA’s taxpayers can be hit for the money instead?

The tangled undersea cable story is the latest instance of this peculiar approach to the world. There can be no question that SA and Africa desperately need more bandwidth to connect to the outside world, or that it needs to be a lot cheaper than what we have now if telecommunications costs in this country are to come down to anything close to an international norm.
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If that’s not enough to drive potential international investors away, Shope-Mafole is also demanding that any private cable operators wanting to land in SA must have local investors. It’s not clear what this demand might do to the other private player planning to build an $500m undersea cable linking SA to Europe and Asia, Seacom.

“Those who want to partner with us can partner on our terms,” Shope-Mafole memorably said recently, sending the kind of signal that is almost sure to drive new potential competitors out of a mar-ket that has been strangled for years by a state-controlled monopoly.

Meanwhile, Public Enterprises Minister Alec Erwin’s new baby, Broadband Infraco, has grandiose plans to build two state-owned undersea cables linking SA to the world, one landing in London, the other in Brazil. Erwin claims Infraco can do it cheaper.

If the state had a good record we might be more sympathetic — but the best way to cut the costs of connectivity is to open up to competition. And the best way of doing that is to create a level playing field that makes it easier, not harder, for investors to put money into the necessary infrastructure.

Let the state compete, too, if it thinks it can do it efficiently and if it can justify the cost to taxpayers. If that means we end up with a collection of cables, private and public, and even with a surplus of bandwidth, so much the better. It can only serve to cut the cost of telecommunications and expand the market. Just what we need.
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There is now a separate thread for this BusinessDay editorial:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=87172
 
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This is such racist BS!! Are you so utterly blind and stupid that you cannot see what damage you are doing to this country!!?!?!

Who gives a damn who owns our broadband?!?! Communications is not the only business model in South Africa, why do we have to "protect" it so much?? It is a tool to build more profitable and sustainable business!! And... by what you are doing, or not in most cases, you are ruining it for everyone in this country... EVEN FOR THE ONES THAT LOOK LIKE YOU!!!!

IVY you are a stupid fat waste of human flesh and oxygen! I hate you! Hurry up and peg already!!!!

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