long lasting cars (mileage) ?

[Mekon]

I had a Corsa C Gamma 1.4 Sport that had 422000km until I rolled it on the highway.

 

[6spdmanual]

So you're saying I should consider an F20 M135i/M140i over the W176 Mercedes-AMG A45?

Yes. Why wouldn't you?

 

[ForceFate]

People usually get rid of them before problems start, my limited, personal experience is that issues start after 100k kms. A friend had timing chain issues on his 0.9T renault just before 100k kms.

Some people have better luck with minimal issues but generally small capacity turbo cars were never built to last no matter what some salesman tells you.

I'm halfway to that magic number


I was actually surprised how punchy they are when I first drove a Clio.

 

[TheChamp]

I'm halfway to that magic number


I was actually surprised how punchy they are when I first drove a Clio.

Hopefully you make it past and beyond, I was surprise how tiny the chain and pulleys are on the Renault, it really didn't inspire confidence, but maybe I am used to the old tech.

 

[Zameside]

-So far a Mazda of 1998 300 000Km+ had proven to be the most reliable vehicle I ever had, however it never saw a dealer ever. Thats why I keep this as a backup as well.
-New Izuzu I hope to be reliable, so far it looks ok. Two dealers closed on me however since I got it and GM disappeared. Now I have to fish for a dealer again.
-The EU(German) car seemed to be the most unreliable filled with electronic jargon, however spare parts are readily available. It faired way better out of gurantee than within so far, but the imminent demise is probably not far away.

those 1991 Mazda's are the longest surviving cars on our roads .....B3 engines....B for bomb proof.

 

[Moto Guzzi]

those 1991 Mazda's are the longest surviving cars on our roads .....B3 engines....B for bomb proof.

So now the big question come: How on earth is it possible with all the technocratic hype, all the digital greatness, all the perfect robotic manufacturing processes, a new vehicle(Many ways more costly) after 1998 can be produced that is worse than those years in reliability and survival-?

 

[Zameside]

So now the big question come: How on earth is it possible with all the technocratic hype, all the digital greatness, all the perfect robotic manufacturing processes, a new vehicle(Many ways more costly) after 1998 can be produced that is worse than those years in reliability and survival-?

For me there.s too many ECU's in the modern car,many cars have become rolling computers.An ECU goes wrong in the bush...what you do?Even these keys...loose your modern key in the bush...chaos.

 

[TheChamp]

For me there.s too many ECU's in the modern car,many cars have become rolling computers.An ECU goes wrong in the bush...what you do?Even these keys...loose your modern key in the bush...chaos.

It's true that some manufacturers go out of their way to make sure cars are not user serviceable, replacing a battery means a trip to the dealer on some cars.

Besides the electronics I have found some recent cars to be generally not well built, even the trusted cars like Toyota, the new Toyota always has some loose plastics dangling under the engine bay, the Honda Jazz loses pieces ofthe interior trim as you drive.

I have found the quality of VW to be very consistent in this regard and I am very glad they decided on the Vivo arrangement instead of importing some cheaply made car from India.

 

[Zameside]

Besides the electronics I have found some recent cars to be generally not well built, even the trusted cars like Toyota, the new Toyota always has some loose plastics dangling under the engine bay, the Honda Jazz loses pieces ofthe interior trim as you drive.

They take away weight for extra mileage and lose strength......flimsy sheet metal and plastic.

 

[notayoba]

Subaru Foresters seem to be essentially immortal. Judging by the amount of 20+ year old ones I see driving around.

 

[airborne]

Came here to say that ^^
Those things are indestructible (Not literally, figure of speech)

Can't recall ever seeing it mentioned that Subaru diesels being particularly reliable, is it still a boxer type engine in their diesels?

 

[Sinbad]

Can't recall ever seeing it mentioned that Subaru diesels being particularly reliable, is it still a boxer type engine in their diesels?

Yes it's a boxer. The early ones had some crankshaft issues but that has been sorted

 

[Smokey mcpot]

The guys on here who have met me can confirm that I zip around in a 2000 honda ballade. Car is approaching 400k on the clock and motor has never been opened.

 

[airborne]

Yes it's a boxer. The early ones had some crankshaft issues but that has been sorted

Why are they so reliable?

Diesels can typically get horribly expensive when they go wrong, that's why I avoid them despite them having great power and low down torque. Subaru's automatics(CVT) also cost a fortune to repair when they break.

A diesel automatic Subaru could potentially get really expensive to maintain if things go wrong.

Interestingly Subaru are rated as one of the most reliable brands on the US and the highest resale value.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

planned obsolescence makes a car die , as how will the brand survive, if their cars never need servicing,/parts?
old corollas were built this way, but almost nothing is built like this anymore.

everything is plastic cr@p that breaks, and FORCES you to buy a new car, because its built like sh*t.

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

thanks so much guys!
yea toyota seems to be mentioned a lot as the long laster and best, although it is also the most stolen vehicle.
these are the kinds ive been looking at:

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wish I knew more about cars to make an informed decision!

my friend has a Renault duster - i read those are highly economical

renault - fantastic to drive - absolute disaster to own.

"The French and Italians make a car to be as good as a car can possibly be, Briefly" - Jeremy Clarkson.

 

[Sinbad]

Why are they so reliable?

Diesels can typically get horribly expensive when they go wrong, that's why I avoid them despite them having great power and low down torque. Subaru's automatics(CVT) also cost a fortune to repair when they break.

A diesel automatic Subaru could potentially get really expensive to maintain if things go wrong.

Interestingly Subaru are rated as one of the most reliable brands on the US and the highest resale value.

They overengineer the hell out of them.

As an example, fire departments have had to come up with special techniques and training should they need to extricate passengers using the jaws of life, as the B pillars are so strong

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[ijacobs3]

renault - fantastic to drive - absolute disaster to own.

"The French and Italians make a car to be as good as a car can possibly be, Briefly" - Jeremy Clarkson.

 

[Moto Guzzi]

For me there.s too many ECU's in the modern car,many cars have become rolling computers.An ECU goes wrong in the bush...what you do?Even these keys...loose your modern key in the bush...chaos.

Digital overboard going is a phase that will water out as time goes on(By force), too much trust and money going into it.

Imagine no power for days, your digital world plus all your info goes DEAD. Thats when you realise a book and paper has value, same for cars, and cars are rolling through all weather conditions, bad roads etc things that electricity dont like.

 

[PhireSide]

@Zuner had a Hyundai Accent with well over 500k IIRC.

Not sure if he's posted here yet