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When I see the word spoiler I immediately move my eyes.

So thanks to those that value the 1st time experience of others.

 

[Space_Chief]

Did you even read my post?

You said:



Reading the last 10 or so pages would make you see that this is false. People manage to talk about lots of stuff without spoiling anything or the thread degenerating to "Naruto is kewl!". It had nothing to do with anything I posted specifically.

We differ about what a spoiler is. I don't consider these things spoilers, and most forums don't either. You do. Start your own forum and be a boss there.

Obviously it's very likely that someone will die. But

a) Pointing out that a certain group of people are going to die and
b) Pointing out exactly when in an episode someone is going to die.

Are not spoilers in either case as you don't know who and how and why.

Is completely different. That second post was particularly bad. The death is supposed to be a shocker and your post would completely ruin it.

Completely ruin it? Completely.... completely? Maybe for you. Not for me. And certainly as evidenced on other forums, not for most people out there. You're just a special snowflake with nothing else to biatch about.

I never said it was. Recommendations was one of the things people visit the thread for, as stated in a previous post.

That's ONE of the things they come here for. Duh. ONE of ... English comprehension dude, master it.

Uh yeah it would. The people here aren't stupid. If your posts are detailed enough that it becomes possible to infer who is going to die then they are spoilers. You may as well have outright told us their names.

Posts are not detailed enough. There is no fixed rule for spoilers. One man's spoiler is not another man's spoiler.

By your standards, but not by mine. And what makes your standard superior, especially as I based my standard on foreign forums, where spoilers are banned in forum rules.

 

[Space_Chief]

When I see the word spoiler I immediately move my eyes.

So thanks to those that value the 1st time experience of others.

In a discussion of anime there will be content. Anything can be a freaking spoiler. When you discuss the plot, anything not revealed yet in the anime is a spoiler, depending on what you personally call a spoiler. And since there are people here who may not have even watched 1 second of the anime, then anything is a spoiler. Anything. So consider every post of mine a potential spoiler and don't read it. And guys like me who have been supporting the industry for ages won't spoil it for a new comer kid like yourself. Because we're not stupid as-hole inconsiderates but actually want a meaningful discussion beyond the usual BS which occurs in anime threads in general forums and we know what real spoilers are, we or at least I, won't throw it at you. And right now we have someone who has her or his panties in a knot over some aspect of his or her personal opinion.

For everyone from now, if you see a comment from me, it could contain a spoiler as per Knyro's nebulous definition. And no I won't post real spoilers.

 

[Space_Chief]

Pointing out that someone dies and when it an episode they die, is not spoiling. Pointing out that Akira dies in end of episode 17 while trying to save the princess would be a spoiler. Of course never mentioning Akira after episode 17 would also imply that he pegged. LOL.

Ah spoilers can be anything. But reasonable people know that and don't get their panties in a knot over nothing.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Ep 2 was not like this, but I see Ep 3 is.

As Far as Anime Censorship Goes, This Is Pretty Ridiculous
http://kotaku.com/as-far-as-anime-censorship-goes-this-is-pretty-ridicul-1645599166

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That's hilariously retarded. It's up there with American networks dubbing over the profanity in films.

 

[Knyro]

We differ about what a spoiler is. I don't consider these things spoilers, and most forums don't either. You do. Start your own forum and be a boss there.

So does r/anime, which is the baseline I'm using. That and common sense

Also here are a few threads from major anime sites specifically talking about deaths. Note how even the names of the characters that died are considered spoilers. So it's not just me. Tons of people agree.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-867807/my-favorite-decease-anime-character-is-----?pg=0
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26903
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1258219&show=0 <- Akame ga Kill fans avoid
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1171301&show=0

Are not spoilers in either case as you don't know who and how and why.

Yes you do know who. That's my point, I even re-watched those episodes to see if they could spoil it and they do.

In the first case you pointed out a certain group of lovers getting killed. In that episode they start showing affection to each other before the first murder is revealed, that automatically narrows it down to a handful of characters. When the first one does die you pretty much know who's next on the chopping block. Very important is that the group being murder victims is not even hinted at until the very end of the episode but your post makes it very obvious. Thanks to you any hopes of the others making it are also gone because you said that character X's friends were killed.

The second case is even more obvious. Before the battle, any tension/hope is out the window because you already know someone is going to die. When the scuffle breaks out and it's narrowed down to a few characters it becomes obvious, can't be X because it's the main character, ah it must be Y, she seems the most expendable, and it was. A death supposed to have come from nowhere made obvious by your post.

Completely ruin it? Completely.... completely? Maybe for you. Not for me. And certainly as evidenced on other forums, not for most people out there.

Like I said I browse r/anime a lot, specifically the episode threads and have never encountered posts that expose major plot points like deaths. The ones that do are clearly marked as spoilers and you have to hover over them to see them.

You're just a special snowflake with nothing else to biatch about.

You're just an inconsiderate person that doesn't care about ruining another person's anime experience.

That's ONE of the things they come here for. Duh. ONE of ... English comprehension dude, master it.

Yeah, people come here for lots of stuff, but not spoilers. If you're going to post them mark them clearly.

Posts are not detailed enough. There is no fixed rule for spoilers. One man's spoiler is not another man's spoiler.

By your standards, but not by mine. And what makes your standard superior, especially as I based my standard on foreign forums, where spoilers are banned in forum rules.

Pointing out that someone dies and when it an episode they die, is not spoiling. Pointing out that Akira dies in end of episode 17 while trying to save the princess would be a spoiler. Of course never mentioning Akira after episode 17 would also imply that he pegged. LOL.

Yes it is a spoiler. It's just as bad as those idiots who ran around bookstores screaming "Dumbledore dies!" when the sixth Harry Potter book was released. Many people were pissed off. Why? Did they know exactly when he was going to die? Or how? No. But people dying is a major plot point. "Is he gonna make it?" Is a common trope to build up tension in stories and used all the time in anime/manga. Even in violent stories like Shingeki no Kyojin and Gantz that have people dropping dead every five minutes. Just knowing that someone is going to die takes a huge amount of the surprise out of the story.

From your example Some people may have been hoping that Akira survives and lives happily ever after with the princess but thanks to a post like that a major part of the story is ruined for them. Even if you do not mention Akira by name the episode, plus the fact that you know that someone is going to die, and when in the episode they die, makes it obvious that it's Akira even before it actually happens.

Actually you know what something like that did happen in this thread before. Someone asked why a character from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann had to die. Didn't mention him by name (but made it obvious), didn't say when or how he died. He was immediately called out by several people and marked his post as a spoiler. His post was replied to and the thread went on. I don't know why this is so hard for you to do.

Ah spoilers can be anything. But reasonable people know that and don't get their panties in a knot over nothing.

See above.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

Anime thread somewhat derailed.

Anyway were there any good cosplay at rage this year, anyone got pictures?

 

[Noah]

Anime thread somewhat derailed.

Anyway were there any good cosplay at rage this year, anyone got pictures?

http://mygaming.co.za/news/news/69555-rage-2014-what-you-missed.html

These chillens still arguing about spoilers?

 

[Space_Chief]

So does r/anime, which is the baseline I'm using. That and common sense

Also here are a few threads from major anime sites specifically talking about deaths. Note how even the names of the characters that died are considered spoilers. So it's not just me. Tons of people agree.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-867807/my-favorite-decease-anime-character-is-----?pg=0
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26903
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1258219&show=0 <- Akame ga Kill fans avoid
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1171301&show=0

Something subjective is not "common sense". Those forums may claim this but people regularly do this on various anime forums. People don't respond negatively.

Yes you do know who. That's my point, I even re-watched those episodes to see if they could spoil it and they do.

You have issues if you rewatched those episodes because of this thread. And yes, it's based on your subjective standard.

In the first case you pointed out a certain group of lovers getting killed. In that episode they start showing affection to each other before the first murder is revealed, that automatically narrows it down to a handful of characters. When the first one does die you pretty much know who's next on the chopping block. Very important is that the group being murder victims is not even hinted at until the very end of the episode but your post makes it very obvious. Thanks to you any hopes of the others making it are also gone because you said that character X's friends were killed.

The second case is even more obvious. Before the battle, any tension/hope is out the window because you already know someone is going to die. When the scuffle breaks out and it's narrowed down to a few characters it becomes obvious, can't be X because it's the main character, ah it must be Y, she seems the most expendable, and it was. A death supposed to have come from nowhere made obvious by your post.

It's hardly obvious.

Like I said I browse r/anime a lot, specifically the episode threads and have never encountered posts that expose major plot points like deaths. The ones that do are clearly marked as spoilers and you have to hover over them to see them.

Well then carry on browsing them because here I'm posting what I'm posting. And no I don't consider what I posted to be spoilers.

You're just an inconsiderate person that doesn't care about ruining another person's anime experience.

You're just someone who doesn't realise that spoilers can vary subjectively. Dude think logically. Your brain doesn't fathom the fact that this varies and is not clear cut. Even you said that these were not really spoilers when you first responded. This is subjective, and you're just jumping to the worse freaking conclusion. Show some charity and stop being so concerned over others. It's easy to find real spoilers online, just a google search with a character name or show name can reveal major spoilers.

Yeah, people come here for lots of stuff, but not spoilers. If you're going to post them mark them clearly.

We'll have to disagree what spoilers are.

From your example Some people may have been hoping that Akira survives and lives happily ever after with the princess but thanks to a post like that a major part of the story is ruined for them. Even if you do not mention Akira by name the episode, plus the fact that you know that someone is going to die, and when in the episode they die, makes it obvious that it's Akira even before it actually happens.

Oh go away. That was described as a spoiler.

Actually you know what something like that did happen in this thread before. Someone asked why a character from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann had to die. Didn't mention him by name (but made it obvious), didn't say when or how he died. He was immediately called out by several people and marked his post as a spoiler. His post was replied to and the thread went on. I don't know why this is so hard for you to do.

Because it's stupid.

Do me a favour and don't respond to me anymore. I'm going to consider it harassment, OK?

(For you it may not be harrassment but for me it is, argument to illustrate difference between what is and what's not a spoiler.)

 

[Space_Chief]

Disclaimer: ALL MY POSTS may contain SPOILERS. DO NOT READ ANY OF MY POSTS IF YOU MAY BE WEARY OF SPOILERS. I have no idea what a spoiler is for a given person so just to be safe, don't read what I post. Thank you.

Grow up Knyro.

 

[Knyro]

Whatever. You clearly can't even engage my posts properly anymore.

For anyone capable of logical inference, be wary of Space_Chiefs posts. They may spoil things for you.

 

[Space_Chief]

Whatever. You clearly can't even engage my posts properly anymore.

For anyone capable of logical inference, be wary of Space_Chiefs posts. They may spoil things for you.

I have engaged your posts. And I have put a disclaimer that since I can't read everyones' mind who may read this thread, please be weary of my posts. It's easy.

Honestly, I don't consider anything of what I posted to be spoilers. They were events but they're not the type of thing which spoils a show. That would be a major plot twist or a death of a major character. Now you said some may consider them spoilers but I have no way to know what people consider a spoiler or not beyond the obvious death of major character or major plot twist. The whole thing is very, very subjective. And if you say post a spoiler warning, here it is, just a few posts above.

People need to mature. This is real life. If you read about a show chances are you'll have some element spoiled. Is the show worthwhile? Well who posted it was worthwhile. Does this person enjoy shows with gore? Yes, so yes you can expect the show has gore in it. Does this person like shows which are non violent or have a good ending and this person enjoyed the said show and recommends it highly - you can expect that this will be more of that. And anything can be a spoiler.

Now maybe you need to start a different thread not entitled "Looking for Anime fans" which is about anything anime related and call it Knyro's anime recommendations (SPOILER WARNING) and put the rules down first describing in detail what is a spoiler and what's NOT a spoiler. Then the people who disregard those rules can be assumed to be a-holes. Simple. But don't come up with subjective standards. And yes some forums - links won't be posted because they offer download links too - mention the type of stuff I mentioned and no-one bans or gets upset with these people. Have a nice day.

 

[Knyro]

I thought my last post made it clear I'm not bothering with you anymore. Do want to get the last word or something? Go ahead.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

http://mygaming.co.za/news/news/69555-rage-2014-what-you-missed.html

These chillens still arguing about spoilers?

Ah thanks, crap my expectations were way too high :/. Yea they seem to be busy still ranting about spoilers.

 

[Space_Chief]

Ah thanks, crap my expectations were way too high :/. Yea they seem to be busy still ranting about spoilers.

Stop spoiling our spoiler rant. And besides I don't see you posting anything here.

 

[Space_Chief]

Anime thread somewhat derailed.

Anyway were there any good cosplay at rage this year, anyone got pictures?

You should see the pics from TGS2014. Wow.

And the Comiket had some nice Cosplay too.

But rAge.... not really. Just generic stuff. I think ASUS went for the twintail, "schoolgirl style". Pretty risque of them.

 

[Necuno]

New Likes:
Garo - The Animation
Shingeki no Bahamut

Baha seems to something that's going to be good / fun to watch. I've tentatively bitten into Garo, see where that ones goes

 

[Mystic Twilight]

Stop spoiling our spoiler rant. And besides I don't see you posting anything here.

I didn't want to spoil my own spoiling of your spoiler rant with other posts .

Aside from Psycho Pass and F/SN UBW, not really anything compelling this season. Only thing I'm really looking forward to is Urobutchers (Urobuchi) movie, that ending is going to be delicious and maybe with manly tears.

 

[Pho3nix]

I didn't want to spoil my own spoiling of your spoiler rant with other posts .

Aside from Psycho Pass and F/SN UBW, not really anything compelling this season. Only thing I'm really looking forward to is Urobutchers (Urobuchi) movie, that ending is going to be delicious and maybe with manly tears.

I'm going to agree with you here. Terra Formers seems good but with the censor rubbish; I'll wait for the BD-Rip

 

[Space_Chief]

I didn't want to spoil my own spoiling of your spoiler rant with other posts .

Aside from Psycho Pass and F/SN UBW, not really anything compelling this season. Only thing I'm really looking forward to is Urobutchers (Urobuchi) movie, that ending is going to be delicious and maybe with manly tears.

I hate Urobochi. So if I hate an anime series made by him, SPOILER, it usually means lots of guro of cute faced girls. END SPOILER. You've been warned.

Psycho Pass II is out. That 17 year old girl cop sure is a brat. Haven't seen ep 2 yet though.

I'm wondering if there will be a fight between Asuna and Kirito over Sinon. Asuna is supposed to be Kirito's waifu. And they even have a virtual daughter.... lol. Kirito is gonna get himself one enemy he won't be able to defeat.