Looking for expired .co.za domain names?

[Thor]

I think Mordor is worth the most

 

[NullHypothesis]

Seriously though, the property one can be turned into a leadgen/affiliate/broker site like Hippo or something like that. But to bid on search keywords to get the people there will not be cheap. So it must be developed with content/advice that will drive organic traffic.

 

[upup]

So do a domain expire, or only if you do not pay?

 

[NullHypothesis]

So do a domain expire, or only if you do not pay?

It does not go off if that is what you are asking. If it is not renewed (on an annual basis) then it "expires" and drops back into the pool of names that is available to registration. Its like an annual subscription.

With international domains there are various services to see when a domain is about to expire (when its in the "redemption" period) as well as other services you can sign up to that will help you "catch" the domain before anyone else gets it.

 

[Thor]

Seriously though, the property one can be turned into a leadgen/affiliate/broker site like Hippo or something like that. But to bid on search keywords to get the people there will not be cheap. So it must be developed with content/advice that will drive organic traffic.

That is what I was thinking, to create a sort of classifieds and affiliate marketing content on propertybonds and realestateloans

Then a similar setup on energydirect.co.za and justdrones is doing well I just need to put there that it is for sale. 1 hundred million dollars

I have this life long dream to create an entertainment website like a weekly (Friday evening) live stream of me talking about the week etc. That is why I registered koffietjie.co.za still playing around with ideas it will consist of me drinking koffie in the scene.

So do a domain expire, or only if you do not pay?

You must pay an annual subscription/renewal fee for Domains

With international domains there are various services to see when a domain is about to expire (when its in the "redemption" period) as well as other services you can sign up to that will help you "catch" the domain before anyone else gets it.

THAT is what I want!!! But for local domains.

It's difficult thou since registrars gets domains before we the people does.

 

[NullHypothesis]

THAT is what I want!!! But for local domains.

Remember we don't have a very big aftermarket/secondary market. So outside of ultra-premium dictionary words its not a liquid market. Many people have tried various things but domaining is still a fringe market in SA. Few make good money, while others dabble and speculate.

It's difficult thou since registrars gets domains before we the people does.

Not following. Why does the registrar get the dropped domains first?

On expiry of the pending deletion period, the domain name will automatically be deleted (removed from the registry database), and revert back into the pool of available domain names. And is available to be registered again.

Is there a cabal I don't know of or something? Didn't Reddington throw "The Director" out of the plane to put an end to such nonsense?

Or are you talking of the people following a grace period pending delete schedule and registering it just as it drops? I myself have spent too much time following this table to catch a close to be expired domain. Then I'm sitting on a Saturday evening thinking haha no one else is gonna catch this domain before me as they probably out partying. When I refresh the whois page again. Boom gone. Registered to someone else.

 

[NullHypothesis]

I have this life long dream to create an entertainment website like a weekly (Friday evening) live stream of me talking about the week etc. That is why I registered koffietjie.co.za still playing around with ideas it will consist of me drinking koffie in the scene.

Do you want to be like Caspar Lee? What are you going to talk about? Get Jacobs Krönung to sponsor it in any case.

 

[airborne]

Then I'm sitting on a Saturday evening thinking haha no one else is gonna catch this domain before me as they probably out partying. When I refresh the whois page again. Boom gone. Registered to someone else.

Wouldn't it be possible to automate that, a bit like bid sniping, so the second a domain becomes available it gets registered in your name?

Probably an international domain site that can offer that?

 

[Thor]

Remember we don't have a very big aftermarket/secondary market. So outside of ultra-premium dictionary words its not a liquid market. Many people have tried various things but domaining is still a fringe market in SA. Few make good money, while others dabble and speculate.


Not following. Why does the registrar get the dropped domains first?

On expiry of the pending deletion period, the domain name will automatically be deleted (removed from the registry database), and revert back into the pool of available domain names. And is available to be registered again.

Is there a cabal I don't know of or something? Didn't Reddington throw "The Director" out of the plane to put an end to such nonsense?

Or are you talking of the people following a grace period pending delete schedule and registering it just as it drops? I myself have spent too much time following this table to catch a close to be expired domain. Then I'm sitting on a Saturday evening thinking haha no one else is gonna catch this domain before me as they probably out partying. When I refresh the whois page again. Boom gone. Registered to someone else.

Not sure how but look at badoop and go daddy

They definitely have automated systems that snoops this up.


Also any newly gLTD like .Capetown etc they have access to first and are allowed to register it before it goes into the public pool.


I'm talking very fast and loose here and I am sure someone for up to date and well worded will come in and explain why a general pickup citizen cannot own lekker stuff like Capetown.co.za or fun.co.za etc

 

[Thor]

Wouldn't it be possible to automate that, a bit like bid sniping, so the second a domain becomes available it gets registered in your name?

Probably an international domain site that can offer that?

This is what I am looking for

 

[NullHypothesis]

Wouldn't it be possible to automate that, a bit like bid sniping, so the second a domain becomes available it gets registered in your name?

Probably an international domain site that can offer that?

That was during legacy times. Now I'm not sure if the other guys was using some kind of automated method of submitting tickets. I was always under the impression that the local registrar (UniForum SA) had systems in place to combat that seeing that they were so strict in trying to avoid data mining from the registrar by limiting whois searches, then they even disabled the public display of search by nameserver results.

 

[NullHypothesis]

Not sure how but look at badoop and go daddy
They definitely have automated systems that snoops this up.

Yeah but in the US those services have been around for a long time. Mike Arrington (founder of Techcrunch) used to run a company called Pool.com which was founded in 2003.

The business model of Pool.com is one in which domains are acquired when dropped or otherwise made available and then auctioned. Demand is established as customers "back order" domains that they need.

The site also contains a marketplace where sales and purchase of domains can occur. Pool.com has several thousand domains for sale. The site functions by tracking domains that are deleted that thus become available for sale, and it tracks tens of thousands of these every day.

There are also a number of other services offered that are related to the main business. They offer featured domain lists and key word alerts. The fact that the site functions via auction provides another useful market for those with domains to sell. At the same time, since the site tracks so many domains that are deleted, it is an excellent place for a person dealing with domains to do business, allowing for a rapid purchase as well as auctioning off of domains in one's portfolio.

Pool.com has quite an extensive network of registrars that powers the acquisition of names. These back order requests can be made free of charge, and allow the acquisition of a deleted domain at a nominal cost, unless there are multiple bidders and then any price is possible.

Pool.com's interface is well designed and provides easy viewing of domains going under auction, and enables you to put domains from your portfolio up for auction as well. There are adequate domain searches, as well as categorized listings to make purchases easier.

Pool.com introduced the concept of auctioning off domains that came to the market and charging a customer fees only if they actually acquired a domain.

This made them very competitive as other sites in the same industry charged a customer whether they won a similar auction or not. Of course, now a lot of sites in the industry have imitated this feature, but the fact is that Pool.com instituted it.

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Also any newly gLTD like .Capetown etc they have access to first and are allowed to register it before it goes into the public pool.

Why don't you ask your friends (with the affiliate link in your footer) for a few of those?

I'm talking very fast and loose here and I am sure someone for up to date and well worded will come in and explain why a general pickup citizen cannot own lekker stuff like Capetown.co.za or fun.co.za etc

A lot of the .co.za generics were registered not long after the registry opened and has been owned since then.

 

[Thor]

Yeah but in the US those services have been around for a long time. Mike Arrington (founder of Techcrunch) used to run a company called Pool.com which was founded in 2003.


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Why don't you ask your friends few of those?


A lot of the .co.za generics were registered not long after the registry opened and has been owned since then.

That's why I am saying I'm 20 years to late

 

[neo_]

I have this life long dream ...

I seem to recall that you have a few 'life long' dreams, like owning a generic .city domain

Edit: Sorry, posted that without reading the rest of the thread. But you get my point.

 

[Thor]

I seem to recall that you have a few 'life long' dreams, like owning a generic .city domain

Edit: Sorry, posted that without reading the rest of the thread. But you get my point.

I do

 

[Zarkon]

Doesn't it get pricey adding domains to your collection. Or are u hoping for that 1 million zim dollar resell haha

 

[Thor]

Doesn't it get pricey adding domains to your collection. Or are u hoping for that 1 million zim dollar resell haha

It does unfortunately. It's quite heavy but I'm in a very fortunate position getting a considerable value.

But to your point. Yes the dream is to have your phone ring and someone saying hey I see you own thisdomain.co.za I will give you one hundred million dollars and eleventy and 5 cents for it.

(I literally own that domain)

 

[neo_]

... I will give you one hundred million dollars and eleventy and 5 cents for it.

And a half.

 

[drowssap]

way back when .coza was still providing the expired list i too went looking for catchy domain names but my motivation was different.
i went looking for domains with decent amount of traffic to either divert traffic or to setup a basic page for adsense. generated a fair amount of cash which funded my inventory. if a domain could not generate the R50 renewal fee it was dropped unless google liked the domain
the reason i wanted to add my 5c, i always suspected those dudes and dudettes working at .co.za were the ones snapping up the great domains before the @ dropped or fwd'ing their lists to the highest bidder. for the process of finding an expired domain to be automated something must be polled continuously. i cant imagine .coza allowing that.
it was like matter of millisecs from expired to reregistered.
Another possible resource where you could find expired domains are a web companies portfolio page. If anybody has found an alternative means of finding expired domains please share, my inventory running low.

 

[Thor]

way back when .coza was still providing the expired list i too went looking for catchy domain names but my motivation was different.
i went looking for domains with decent amount of traffic to either divert traffic or to setup a basic page for adsense. generated a fair amount of cash which funded my inventory. if a domain could not generate the R50 renewal fee it was dropped unless google liked the domain
the reason i wanted to add my 5c, i always suspected those dudes and dudettes working at .co.za were the ones snapping up the great domains before the @ dropped or fwd'ing their lists to the highest bidder. for the process of finding an expired domain to be automated something must be polled continuously. i cant imagine .coza allowing that.
it was like matter of millisecs from expired to reregistered.
Another possible resource where you could find expired domains are a web companies portfolio page. If anybody has found an alternative means of finding expired domains please share, my inventory running low.

Agreed.