Looted chicken farm leads to job losses

[konfab]

A man who took part in the looting of the farm, who asked not to be named, said the community had "sabotaged itself".

“It does hurt that they (Hofina) moved to a new location because we used to get temporary jobs and feed our families,” he said.

Other looters TimesLIVE interviewed said no specific reason motivated their actions, they just followed others.

“I now realise that it was wrong to loot but I could not stay behind while others helped themselves to free chicken. But now that chicken is gone, and so are our temporary jobs”.

Imagine if they had a community that respected the property of others. That is why these people are poor, no other reason.
It isn't the government, it isn't apartheid, it it isn't colonialism, it is their behaviour. No-one is allowed to grow because anyone who manages to makes a little bit more than others is pulled right back down to poverty.

If they want to talk about community, then maybe they should all sit down in an "imbizo" or whatever they call it and decide that the community will protect other people's property.

 

[Craig_]

Imagine if they had a community that respected the property of others. That is why these people are poor, no other reason.
It isn't the government, it isn't apartheid, it it isn't colonialism, it is their behaviour. No-one is allowed to grow because anyone who makes a little bit more than others is pulled right back down to poverty.

They do it because they know there won't be consequences, if that d00s in the hat did his job this kind of thing wouldn't be an issue. Get the first few and the group won't grow bigger.

 

[Nerfherder]

I understand the job losses. But, what will these communities eat now since this huge farm providing meat and poultry has packed up and left. They will likely now migrate to bigger towns where there are more food availability.

So I doubt they rely on this farm as a major food source. Probably most of this stock goes to the big retailers like Checkers\PnP or Woolworths.
These guys in the rural area don't eat chicken and lamb every night like we do.

The income will be the most devastating thing here. At best if they looted live animals and managed to keep them alive and well, then perhaps some people have some sort of home farm going.
What is more probable is that all the looted stock died and was consumed/wasted within a few weeks.

Harsh lessons for those that looted and those that didn't

 

[die_koos]

These people are the looters. And they are violent. The few docile people within the community will never stand up against the looters.

I Hope you are wrong. I just find it unthinkable that an entire community can be so far gone that they condone this kind of behavior.

Similar situation with the rape in Krugerdorp this week. Imagine the level of depravity required to be sure enough of the lack of morals of the group of people around you so that you can walk up to a group of people and just rape them? Think about it? Sitting here I can't think of one person I know that I would "trust" to go shoplifting with.....

 

[konfab]

They do it because they know there won't be consequences, if that d00s in the hat did his job this kind of thing wouldn't be an issue. Get the first few and the group won't grow bigger.

Not stealing because of negative consequences isn't the solution. They shouldn't be stealing because they know that stealing is wrong.

 

[epah]

I wonder how many of those chickens will end up in a Philips airfryer

 

[Nerfherder]

Imagine if they had a community that respected the property of others. That is why these people are poor, no other reason.
It isn't the government, it isn't apartheid, it it isn't colonialism, it is their behaviour. No-one is allowed to grow because anyone who makes a little bit more than others is pulled right back down to poverty.

When you have very little its hard to respect the property of those who seemingly have an infinite supply.
looting though, is a matter of - well everyone else is doing it.... if I don't then there will be nothing for me.

Even as middle class people like us as the looting gets worse there is a point where if we don't join them we will starve.

 

[konfab]

When you have very little its hard to respect the property of those who seemingly have an infinite supply.
looting though, is a matter of - well everyone else is doing it.... if I don't then there will be nothing for me.

Even as middle class people like us as the looting gets worse there is a point where if we don't join them we will starve.

That is absolutely not true.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

That is absolutely not true.

Yes spot on, this mindset of "its because they are poor", or "they are just hungry" is part of the SA large scale mental problem of justifying criminality. And the government suffers from this as well as we could see - no action from police and delayed action by the army.

 

[Bigjay84]

So another community success story then

 

[Nerfherder]

That is absolutely not true.

Then you have never been really hungry.

Would you starve to death if you had nothing ? I wouldn't, as a last resort I would definitely take food to keep alive.

If you are saying that they are not in poverty or not starving then perhaps. There are people like that in this country though and that is the underlying problem that sparks this looting though.
and yes, once it starts then everyone gets involved - haves and have nots

 

[Nerfherder]

Yes spot on, this mindset of "its because they are poor", or "they are just hungry" is part of the SA large scale mental problem of justifying criminality. And the government suffers from this as well as we could see - no action from police and delayed action by the army.

Are you aware that there are people living below the bread line in this country ?

People commit crimes for all sorts of reasons, greed, mental health issues, and also because they are just hungry.

 

[ToxicBunny]

They do it because they know there won't be consequences, if that d00s in the hat did his job this kind of thing wouldn't be an issue. Get the first few and the group won't grow bigger.

So its not necessarily about the lack of consequences, its an element of not being able to fathom the consequences.

Yes there will be no criminal consequences for this lot more than likely, but the economic consequences are no more jobs for them since the place that they worked and then looted is shutting down. There is very much an element of "take today, cry about the impact later" at play here and its one of the core issues we need to fix in this country.

 

[konfab]

Then you have never been really hungry.

Would you starve to death if you had nothing ? I wouldn't, as a last resort I would definitely take food to keep alive.

If you are saying that they are not in poverty or not starving then perhaps. There are people like that in this country though and that is the underlying problem that sparks this looting though.
and yes, once it starts then everyone gets involved - haves and have nots

These people were not starving to death.

“Now we cannot afford transport money to get there because we don’t get paid a lot of money and those jobs were just temporary. We were also able to buy some of the rejected eggs that they sold at R1 per egg. Now the shops in this area sell eggs at R2.50 each.”

 

[mojoman]

Are you aware that there are people living below the bread line in this country ?

People commit crimes for all sorts of reasons, greed, mental health issues, and also because they are just hungry.

Pretty sure there were plenty who were hungry and poor before 1994...
Didnt see much brazen looting back then...

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Are you aware that there are people living below the bread line in this country ?

People commit crimes for all sorts of reasons, greed, mental health issues, and also because they are just hungry.

This mentality is what I am talking about. No, people commit crime because they are evil.

 

[Nerfherder]

These people were not starving to death.

Those are the people with jobs.... what about everyone else living in the area ?

Do you honestly think that the people looting were ALL employees of the farm.

Part time employees who did loot are the stupidest of the stupidest but I assure you that most looters were not working there.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Those are the people with jobs.... what about everyone else living in the area ?

Do you honestly think that the people looting were ALL employees of the farm.

Part time employees who did loot are the stupidest of the stupidest but I assure you that most looters were not working there.

They have social grants galore!

 

["D"]

Please, not all of us are the same.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Dalmatian101 is equal to Hellhound105
Not true!

 

[mojoman]

They have social grants galore!

And 'smart' mega cities on the way...with gig and gigs of free data...and lets not forget the 100m Flag of Happiness and Full Tummies...