Low fat or full cream milk for toddler and me?

Hamish McPanji

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Am in a dilemma, am a fat lazy bastid whose toddler has just started having milk. I have always bought full cream fresh (not uht) milk, and a 3l bottle lasts me about 4 days.

I need to lose some weight so am considering switching to low fat....is it advisable since my tod will also be having the same? How do they make the low fat milk, any chemical processes involved?

The question that is begging : why don't I buy separate milk for the tod? Answer : am a fat lazy bastid, can't be bothered going to shop for 2 sets of milk
 

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If you are serious about losing weight, and want to lose it fast, cut carbs out, and increase/eat fat to lose fat. And non starchy vegetables. The problem with milk is that it has quite a bit of sugar (carbs) in it, you're doing yourself no favours by having it. Cream and yoghurt (and cheese) are better for your dairy, and excellent sources for fat.
 

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Am a tea and coffee addict, and so sugar is a huge problem for me. I don't think I will be able to cut the milk because of this also. So if I do have to have milk, the difference between low fat and full cream is minimal?
 

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Am a tea and coffee addict, and so sugar is a huge problem for me. I don't think I will be able to cut the milk because of this also. So if I do have to have milk, the difference between low fat and full cream is minimal?

Why don't you try having coffee/tea without sugar? Are you interested in sweetness, or losing weight? I assure you there are only benefits with the latter, and only negatives with the former.

I haven't had sugar in my coffee since 31/12/13.

The difference will be minimal if you're on a low carb high fat diet. If you continue eating carbs, fat isn't doing you any good, so low fat/skim would be better.

Do try go for milk which has the least amount of sugar/carbs. But more importantly, consider how much you want to lose weight, and think very hard about cutting carbs to do this.

If you are serious, you will be led to having coffee with cream, and without sugar.
 

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I cut sugar out of my diet and have lost 23KG's in 4 months ;) I was lucky in that i didnt struggle getting off sugar. I just stopped one day and havent looked back since. I still have 2% low fat milk with tea etc, but then again i have maybe 2 cups a day, otherwise its water :)
 

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If you are serious about losing weight, and want to lose it fast...

...do some exercise! People are always quickest to want to change their diet as it is the "easier" solution.

I know we are not all the same but I can eat what I want and still lose weight just by hitting the road and running and cycling. An added benefit is once you start exercising you feel good about yourself and inevitably you start watching what you eat anyway.
 

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...do some exercise! People are always quickest to want to change their diet as it is the "easier" solution.

I know we are not all the same but I can eat what I want and still lose weight just by hitting the road and running and cycling. An added benefit is once you start exercising you feel good about yourself and inevitably you start watching what you eat anyway.

I've seen figures stated before where basically in order to counter a small amount of kj input you have to do a disproportionate amount of physical work. Exercise is certainly a good thing - bit it's not either or. The question is whether you've ever had obesity problems on a "regular" diet without exercise?
 

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Yes, it's shouldn't be either or but I regularly hear diet suggestions put forward before exercise suggestions. As mentioned it just seems far easier to change your milk or cut down on sugar than exercising.

I am interested in the assertion regarding disproportionate physical work versus inputs. Can't refute it off hand but does not sound right so I'll look into that.
 

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I give my laaitie full cream. Don't make your problem the kids problem.
 

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I give my laaitie full cream. Don't make your problem the kids problem.

From what I see around town this is often the problem. I see many obese parents with obese children. Genetics at play or inheritance of poor eating and exercise habits?
 

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Don't skip breakfast if you're trying to lose weight.
 

SeanJ

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What I've learnt (I by no means am an expert):

1.) Dont skip breakfast (as mentioned)
2.) Cut alcohol, sugar etc
3.) Eat 5 small meals a day (keeps you feeling full)
4.) Portion size, portion size, portion size.
5.) I personally do an hour exercise a day.
6.) Its ok to treat your self to something small once a week, i normally share a packet of rascals :)
7.) Get enough sleep.
8.) Keep a food dairy, its a physical sort of reminder of what you have eaten. That way you can look back on your day and see where you went off track and where you did well.
9.) YOGA, I was a huge sceptic, but its been great with increasing my flexibility and breathing. At the end of a long week, it is also relaxing :)

If you get through the first month, the rest is a breeze. When I first started out, it was an absolute chore to keep to my new "lifestyle" and I had found myself walking to a fridge, opening the door and grabbing something to eat. The worst part was that I wasn't hungry at all, I was eating to eat. When i caught myself doing this, i would say out aloud "You dont need this". Slowly but surely I got rid of the habit and started eating to live and not the other way around. 24KG's down and life is great, honestly, its the best decision I have ever made.
 

D3nz

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Give the little one full cream milk. He needs it. If you want to lose weight, I would advise you to join the weight loss thread. You will get some excellent advice there.
 

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Your toddler needs full cream milk for the fat soluble Vitamins A and D. At least till age ten, but preferably till 18.
Don't be lazy, buy separate milk for you and your kid.
Don't believe so much in low carb diets.
 

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Have you tried the lactose-free milk? You get it in low fat and full cream. A bit pricey but easy on the tum.
 

LCBXX

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Any dietitian who knows their shyte will tell you it has nothing to to with how little fat/sugar/etc something has. It is about the total amount of calories you consume.
 
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