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Mac might get Oculus Rift if Apple “ever releases a good computer”
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Fulcrum29
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Do you require your Apple device to do VR and high-end gaming?
itareanlnotani
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He's right though, the last really decent upgradable Mac's were the desktop 4,1 and 5,1 series Mac Pro series.
Its more the video card being an issue than anything else, CPU's, ram and ssd speeds in Mac's are great.
The older Mac Pro's are awesome machines. I have a bunch of 4,1 and 5,1's that I've upgraded cpu's, video cards, wifi for, and they're plenty fast for gaming, especially if you want to stick a decent GFX card eg a Titan X or 980Ti in them, or R9 Fury if you like AMD (I don't). I'm less keen on gaming now though than when I was younger - a PS4, Wii U, and 3DS fill my needs.
Its ironic, when I was younger I didn't have the money for a good setup, now I do, I can't be bothered.
Only thing that might persuade me would probably be Elite Dangerous, as I've seen some great VR setups with that.
Elite has come a long way since the BBC Micro days! (Although I had it on a Spectrum, we only had Beeb's at School).
Its more the video card being an issue than anything else, CPU's, ram and ssd speeds in Mac's are great.
The older Mac Pro's are awesome machines. I have a bunch of 4,1 and 5,1's that I've upgraded cpu's, video cards, wifi for, and they're plenty fast for gaming, especially if you want to stick a decent GFX card eg a Titan X or 980Ti in them, or R9 Fury if you like AMD (I don't). I'm less keen on gaming now though than when I was younger - a PS4, Wii U, and 3DS fill my needs.
Its ironic, when I was younger I didn't have the money for a good setup, now I do, I can't be bothered.
Only thing that might persuade me would probably be Elite Dangerous, as I've seen some great VR setups with that.
Elite has come a long way since the BBC Micro days! (Although I had it on a Spectrum, we only had Beeb's at School).
I don't know if someone mentioned this already, but Apple could very easily cater to gamers without compromising their current design and engineering philosophies.
This is the Razer Core:
It houses a full size PCIe GPU, has a built-in power supply and connects with just a single Thunderbolt 3 port.
Apple would barely need to lift a finger to copy it.
Yeah there is definitely place for a normal desktop Mac from Apple. The Mac Pro is nice but it uses overly expensive parts.
There already is a normal desktop from Apple - the iMac. Separate housing for a proper GPU like the Razer Core is all they need. It would be applicable to desktop and notebook users.
Swa
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Points and laughs. Apple only getting on board again when it's old tech and then slapping a premium on it for people that don't know better.
Much better systems can be put together in "Windowsland." The fact that most people budget around their needs shouldn't distract from that.
PostmanPot
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Holy fck!.
Do we get this in SA I will replace my amd pc with this.
This looks pretty damn good!!
My current desktop is
Amd 6 core 3.8ghz
Ssd
32Gb ddr3
Gtx580 x 2
cerebus
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We're talking about high end gaming on VR devices that require stonking high end GPU configurations and driver support. Sorry this is just not Apple's territory.
Something between the Mac Mini, which Apple butchered in the last release, and the Mac Pro. A computer that is just the box, no screen, so the iMac does not count. Unfortunately Apple have now ruined the Mac Mini too (as they've been doing with their laptops for a while now).
Having used their laptops since the mid 90's I have to say my current one - 2014 15" rMBP - is their best one yet so I have to wonder how they've ruined the range?
A few people still think that computers should be user serviceable and swappable. They have different priorities and believe everyone else does (or should) think the way they do about computers.
Luckily Apple charts their own course.
You could get that in SA in 2012, but now only the single socket model, that cannot take a PCI Express graphics card, and looks like this:
I saw this badboy but it's expensive as all fck
I want that top mentioned model
It's gorgeous I wish I had it I will swap my pc
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Thanks. The only one I'd touch is the Razer. The others are just nasty heaps of plastic.
MSI Has a version of the GS60 in their Prestige lineup called the PX60, which has a metal body. It's pretty much Mac-levels of expensive, and has a calibrated IPS display. Huawei's ultrabook is going to have a metal unibody as well as GTX-class graphics, so that's going to be a nice alternative.
That's if Intel and Apple work on making driver support for the Iris Pro graphics good inside OS X. Currently it just makes do, while on Windows and Linux there's a constant stream of improvements available through driver updates.
Thunderbolt-supported external graphics isn't new, but getting it to work in OS X in the past has been tricky. Because the Intel GPU acts as the display controller through embedded Displayport, getting the external GPU to take ownership of the internal display requires that you use Optimus to facilitate the switching. You can also run these sorts of setups in SLI, but then you need a Macbook Pro with Iris graphics, and running Windows through Bootcamp is a practical requirement.
But then again, even if Thunderbolt 3 introduces a neat, standard way of getting external graphics support working in a plug-n-play fashion, what's the point when you're dealing with OS X? OpenGL doesn't get updated regularly. Adaptive V-Sync and frame pacing doesn't work. G-Sync isn't supported. Vulkan still has no signs of life on there. I don't think Mac users will pick up this kind of tech en masse. It will definitely get picked up by Windows users though.
In general or Apples implementation of it?
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Funny how everybody who don't think like that can complain is the same way when they find out they aren't.