Maine 'reckless' for calling Gordhan an 'impimpi' - ANC

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Durban – The ANC has distanced itself from comments by Youth League president Collen Maine, who over the weekend reportedly called Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan an "impimpi" (spy), adding that "something must be done" to him.

It is commonly known that in the pre-1994 period, those labelled izimpimpi were necklaced for their betrayal to the struggle.

"The statement is reckless and regrettable. To attack a minister appointed by President Jacob Zuma is out of line. Only the president can take decisions on his ministers," ANC spokesperson Zizi Kodwa told News24 on Monday.

According to a report by IOL, Maine accused Gordhan of being an "impimpi" for monopoly capital. He told delegates to the provincial elective conference in Durban how "izimpimpi" were dealt with during the struggle for freedom.

'Completely out of order'

Maine reportedly questioned who Gordhan represented and added that before 1994 izimpimpi were dealt with in a certain way.

Kodwa said on Monday that no structure of the ANC, including the Youth League, should use that term for Gordhan.

"It is completely out of order and irresponsible. We think there is everything wrong with that statement politically. The ANC at some point will talk to him and get clarity. We are looking forward to meeting with him and getting clarity on this statement."

Kodwa said it was Zuma who invited key individuals to be ministers. He added that the ANC was deeply concerned by what Maine had said.

"It is worrying to use the word impimpi in the same line as Minister Gordhan. Gordhan is a cadre of the ANC. He knows nothing else but the ANC. It cannot be suggested that he comes from somewhere else."

The ANCYL said it would comment on the matter at a later stage.

News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/maine-reckless-for-calling-gordhan-an-impimpi-anc-20170227
 

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Hmmmmm ... not that I wish such a fate on anyone (ok perhaps on Zuma), but a necklacing of the finance minister on live TV should get the world's attention. Perhaps THEN the rating agencies will grow a pair and call a spade a spade, or junk, junk as it were.
 

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Hmmmmm ... not that I wish such a fate on anyone (ok perhaps on Zuma), but a necklacing of the finance minister on live TV should get the world's attention. Perhaps THEN the rating agencies will grow a pair and call a spade a spade, or junk, junk as it were.
That comment is so wrong....:sick:
 

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I suppose Oros is far too protected to be hauled before a DC and expelled like they did Malema. He's safe as he is careful to only insult those on Zuma (and the other captured) **** list. Malema started out that way and only got the ol' heave ho when he started going after his massa.
 

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I suppose Oros is far too protected to be hauled before a DC and expelled like they did Malema. He's safe as he is careful to only insult those on Zuma (and the other captured) **** list. Malema started out that way and only got the ol' heave ho when he started going after his massa.
True, all uncle Gweezy and Zizi can do is condemn and distance themselves, powerless against the Gupta heavy machinery.
 

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Must be cool to get away with calling for people to be necklaced ....... anyone doing that is disgusting, savages be savaging :rolleyes:
 

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Incitement to violence?
A sort of racial slur as well?
Plenty of evidence to suggest that someone needs to lay a charge against this individual.
 

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ANCYL says it knows nothing about 'impimpi' complaints lodged against Maine

Johannesburg – The ANC Youth League has stuck by its president Collen Maine's comments about izimpimpi. It also insists Maine did not call Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan an impimpi.

"It's a comparison, we can't have media houses telling us what is the average and measurement of recklessness in South Africa," ANCYL spokesperson Mlondi Mkhize told News24.

According to reports, Maine, speaking at the league's KwaZulu-Natal provincial conference, called Gordhan an impimpi and said "something needed to be done about him".

The term refers to what apartheid-era spies were called in the townships during the struggle. Some of them were killed by being necklaced with a burning tyre.

Mkhize said Maine was merely making a comparison between those who sold out the liberation movement's operations during the struggle and those who are selling out the ANC government's plans for the country now.

"He said people who refuse to drive transformation in South Africa are acting like izimpimpi in the olden days and thus are weakening the ANC and its government," explained Mkhize.

Huffington Post reported earlier that two complaints had been made against Maine in connection with his remarks, but the ANCYL spokesperson said the league knew nothing about the charges. The report said the complaints were sent to the ANC's integrity committee.

"I can't even respond because I don't know what we are being charged for, maybe we cough too much in meetings, it could be anything," said Mkhize.

'Nothing irresponsible about a comparison'


He also dismissed criticism levelled at the league by the ANC over the comments. This week the ANC's Zizi Kodwa distanced the young lions' mother body from the remarks.

He also labelled them reckless, irresponsible and completely out of order.

"When have you ever heard Zizi [Kodwa] say anything by the ANC Youth League is not reckless?" asked Mkhize.

"We can't be accused of being the centre and epitome of recklessness," added the ANCYL spokesperson.

The youth league has been at the forefront of calls for the minister to be fired, claiming he has failed to transform Treasury and that he is protecting the interests of white monopoly capital.



Mkhize said there was nothing wrong with disagreeing with Maine's view, but it was unfair to call it reckless.

"I don't know what is irresponsible about a comparison, we are saying don't sensitise the word izimpipi."

He said the league often doesn't hesitate to apologise if it is convinced that it has made a mistake, however, it doesn't feel that was the case in this instance.


News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ancyl-says-it-knows-nothing-about-impimpi-complaints-lodged-against-maine-20170301#cxrecs_s
 
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And selling off to the Guptas doesn't make you akin to impimpis?
 

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/waits for "taken out of context"

ANC should fire the guy
 

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Civil society bodies lodge hate speech complaints against Maine

Durban – Two civil society organisations have lodged hate speech complaints against ANC Youth League leader Collen Maine over his comments about Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan.

The Durban-based Active Citizens Movement (ACM) and Johannesburg Against Injustice (JAI) said their complaints to the SA Human Rights Commission also included incitement of violence, and violating Gordhan’s constitutional rights to life, dignity and personal security.

"The ACM and JAI strongly believe that such flagrant, unlawful and criminal conduct should not go unchallenged."

Maine’s inflammatory comments would cause polarisation in society and encourage people to solve political differences through violence, they said.

"It is our considered view that Maine’s statements were deliberately crafted to incite violence against the minister and, if left unchecked, could have tragic consequences."

Following Gordhan’s Budget Speech on February 22, Maine accused the minister of being an "impimpi" for white monopoly capital. He told ANCYL delegates at the league's provincial elective conference in Durban how "izimpimpi" were dealt with during the anti-apartheid struggle. Maine questioned who Gordhan was representing.

Pre-1994, izimpimpi were "necklaced" for their betrayal of the struggle. This method of execution involved putting a petrol-soaked tyre over the victim’s head and setting it alight.

The ACM and JAI called on political leaders to ensure their followers behaved in a dignified and disciplined manner.


News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/civil-society-bodies-lodge-hate-speech-complaints-against-maine-20170307
 
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