Major Windows 10 bug confirmed - Only fix is to downgrade

JohnStarr

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Never had an issue with a Windows bug. It's probably a small percentage of the users who have updated, and they're announcing it as the right thing to do...and then, unfortunately, everyone and their dog chimes in about how bad the OS is.
It would be impossible not to have a bug of some form in software (hell, even I as someone not into software programming knows that).
 

Rickster

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Jirre, and so the wait to update to 20H2 continues. I'm still on 1909 after all the 2004 bugs.

Yeah man, im chilling on 1903, been loving it.

Shout out to all the lab rats in the public for having to deal with all the bugs and shite.
 

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I saw that and my first thought was that it points to crappy dependency and package management, meaning that when one installs a package (doesn't matter how and where from), the installation should terminate if there are incompatible package dependencies.

I think I've mentioned it a good few times before, Microsoft should be dogfooding before unleashing its crap worldwide. I'm sure I've also mentioned Continuous Integration as well.
Yup, they should have build conditions into the upgrade for distributed updates. One thing that isnt clear is if it has an effect on update sharing function for pc's in a home network. I would assume that is built on a scaled down WSUS release.
 

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Insert evil maid attack here.
LOL, I never suggested that it would be a good idea to insert the power cable (ever again), but good luck with that flash drive when the machine is permanently powered off.
 

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Major Windows 10 bug – Only fix is to downgrade to Windows 7
ftfy
 

Swa

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I've stopped updating windows 10. Ja, security blah blah blah. My life is easier without dealing with all these updates and issues. Will take my chances.
How you managed that when updates are built into it?

Never had an issue with a Windows bug. It's probably a small percentage of the users who have updated, and they're announcing it as the right thing to do...and then, unfortunately, everyone and their dog chimes in about how bad the OS is.
It would be impossible not to have a bug of some form in software (hell, even I as someone not into software programming knows that).
Some designs have more bugs than others, and it's not surprising Windows 10 is among the worst with the philosophy they employed. Each windows version has gotten more buggy with them just tacking things on. And it's not actually impossible to have a bug free (not programming errors) software philosophy. Just look at the BIOS interrupt system.
 

|tera|

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Jirre, and so the wait to update to 20H2 continues. I'm still on 1909 after all the 2004 bugs.
pfft. stuck on windows 10 vs 1511. cannot even go to 1903. and i am admin on my machine
Download the 20H2 ISO with the media creation tool. Save it somewhere on the PC.

After download double click the ISO to mount it. Start the Setup.
It is an in place upgrade.
All files, apps etc. can be kept.

I don't do build updates in Windows Update.
Edit: I don't do rollbacks either.
After install I clean the previous Windows installation with disk cleanup. Saves me around 40GB in space.
 

Vorastra

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Download the 20H2 ISO with the media creation tool. Save it somewhere on the PC.

After download double click the ISO to mount it. Start the Setup.
It is an in place upgrade.
All files, apps etc. can be kept.

I don't do build updates in Windows Update.
Edit: I don't do rollbacks either.
After install I clean the previous Windows installation with disk cleanup. Saves me around 40GB in space.
You realise this article is specifically about how, if your version of W10 is ahead in cumulative updates compared to the ISO, certificates aren't transferred correctly.
It's not that I'm not updating because I don't know how to. I'm not updating because there's a legit OS breaking issue.
 

saor

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How you managed that when updates are built into it?
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Turned them off ages ago and haven't been bothered since. Not sure if there was some additional setting somewhere that I've forgotten.

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Turned them off ages ago and haven't been bothered since
Kudos for continuing to spread the malware. It's a brave move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.

I will never get this "bring back XP/Win 7" fandom from folks who *should* be more technically proficient than a potato but spend all that energy proving they're not.

Stupidly large Win10 base, including more than a few home machines, : zero issue. But that counts for nothing when cruddy reporting and distorted, click-bait, headlines are in play, right?

Right?
 

Swa

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Turned them off ages ago and haven't been bothered since. Not sure if there was some additional setting somewhere that I've forgotten.

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Thought there was a point when windows just resets those settings and updates anyway.

Kudos for continuing to spread the malware. It's a brave move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.

I will never get this "bring back XP/Win 7" fandom from folks who *should* be more technically proficient than a potato but spend all that energy proving they're not.

Stupidly large Win10 base, including more than a few home machines, : zero issue. But that counts for nothing when cruddy reporting and distorted, click-bait, headlines are in play, right?

Right?
You are speaking to the wrong crowd. It's usually the non tech savvy users who blindly updates because they are told to that spread most of the malware, and not the ones who choose not to because they know what they are doing. The biggest target is actually the OS of the day. I can't remember the last time I got infected on windows 3.1.
 

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It's usually the non tech savvy users who blindly updates because they are told to that spread most of the malware
Here's hoping you're presenting figures soon.

I have doubts, but a statement this bold must have data backing it.
 

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You realise this article is specifically about how, if your version of W10 is ahead in cumulative updates compared to the ISO, certificates aren't transferred correctly.
It's not that I'm not updating because I don't know how to. I'm not updating because there's a legit OS breaking issue.
Point taken. You know how to update.
I don't have any issues with the latest build. All updates, including cumulative updates were done.

I used to be a Windows insider a few years ago. If you want a frustrating OS experience, become an insider.
I only use official final builds these days.
 

Swa

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Here's hoping you're presenting figures soon.

I have doubts, but a statement this bold must have data backing it.
You want proof that non tech savvy users are more inclined to spread malware?
 

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Point taken. You know how to update.
I don't have any issues with the latest build. All updates, including cumulative updates were done.

I used to be a Windows insider a few years ago. If you want a frustrating OS experience, become an insider.
I only use official final builds these days.

Same here and I've updated numerous machines :unsure:
 

Vorastra

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Point taken. You know how to update.
I don't have any issues with the latest build. All updates, including cumulative updates were done.

I used to be a Windows insider a few years ago. If you want a frustrating OS experience, become an insider.
I only use official final builds these days.
Insiders unite. Been since 2015.

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rustypup

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You want proof that non tech savvy users are more inclined to spread malware?
No. That users who are *patching* are the primary source of malware spread, per your claim.
 
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