Making neighbour pay

zenmeister

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To cut a long story short, I seek some advice my SO's neighbour recently demolished her fence in an attempt to rebuild it (about 3 weeks ago) till today nothing has been built, during that time one dog got lost because the one side of SO's house is not fenced and the other dog died last week after escaping through the unfenced part of the house and coming back vomiting until she eventually died. Taking that into consideration is there a way to sue my neighbour or inflict some kind of legal action because of my loss I really loved these dogs.
 

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I would insist he erect a temporary fence till the wall is done. But he also needs to let you know how long he is going to take, this would be a huge inconvenience.
 

STS

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Did you sign an agreement?

Why was a temporary fence not put in place?

I am sorry for your loss
 

zenmeister

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There's no agreement she just put her fence down with no warning or anything like that to top it off a huge amount of sand is in my SO's lawn. If it was for me I'd just moer her senseless.
 

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Not to be a devils advocate here but if the wall belonged to your neighbor and is on their side, whether they take it down or not, you don't really have a recourse. Unless it's a shared wall ( actually on the boundary line and straddled ), you should have your own. Yes, personally it's a bit off side to take it down and not erect a temporary but maybe they ran into some difficulty with something.

Sucks about the dogs though :(
 

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Not to be a devils advocate here but if the wall belonged to your neighbor and is on their side, whether they take it down or not, you don't really have a recourse. Unless it's a shared wall ( actually on the boundary line and straddled ), you should have your own. Yes, personally it's a bit off side to take it down and not erect a temporary but maybe they ran into some difficulty with something.

Sucks about the dogs though :(

As far as I know most boundary walls are shared, but belongs to the person that built it in the first place. Even then you still have to ask permission for any structural changes or at least confer with your neighbours.

My house was built before all my neighbours were their. Thus I paid for the Vibra-Crete wall surrounding my property. That does not mean I can just demolish it whenever I want.
 

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I would insist he erect a temporary fence till the wall is done. But he also needs to let you know how long he is going to take, this would be a huge inconvenience.

Get in touch with the municipality.

Oops, I quoted you by mistake, reply was meant at zenmeister.
 
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As far as I know most boundary walls are shared, but belongs to the person that built it in the first place. Even then you still have to ask permission for any structural changes or at least confer with your neighbours.

My house was built before all my neighbours were their. Thus I paid for the Vibra-Crete wall surrounding my property. That does not mean I can just demolish it whenever I want.

I would think legally you can demolish it anytime you want. Ethically, you may choose to inform your neighbors first.
 

Fulcrum29

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I would think legally you can demolish it anytime you want. Ethically, you may choose to inform your neighbors first.

http://www.legalcity.net/Index.cfm?fuseaction=RIGHTS.article&ArticleID=5223104

Boundary (party) walls or fences

In the absence of proof that a boundary wall, fence or hedge is entirely on one of two adjoining properties, it is presumed to be half on one property and half on the other. Some legal authorities state that each part is separately owned by the owner of the property on which it stands, but that there are reciprocal servitudes of support. Other authorities state that the wall is owned jointly by the owners of the adjoining properties. The law relating to such encroaching boundary walls reflects the influence of both theories. An owner who transfers his or her property, automatically transfers the joint ownership. Neither owner may, without the consent of the other remove, raise or lower the boundary wall or tamper with it in any way except in an emergency, although in terms of common law a neighbour is allowed to break down a wooden fence and replace it at own cost with a more expensive partition.

Either owner may re-erect a boundary wall destroyed by an act of God, such as fire or flood; the other owner would have to contribute half the cost - if he or she will derive any benefit from it. Each owner is obliged to contribute to the maintenance and repair of the wall, although an owner can refuse to contribute to the cost of an unreasonably expensive new wall. Moreover, an owner is under no obligation to replace with a similar structure a boundary wall that was unreasonably expensive when it was originally erected.

It is best to come to an agreement with your neighbour on the amount to be spent on the wall. Although both of you would be entitled to reasonable use of the boundary wall, fence or hedge, this right does not include reducing its strength or making it unstable. It does, however, include improving and altering the appearance of the side that fronts your property. Subject to local-authority regulations, you may use your side of the boundary wall as support for a beam or for water pipes. If it is strong enough, you may even build on it.

zenmeister must contact the municipality, get in contact with the city/area planner department (or anyone in a similar position) to take a look at the submitted plans etc. also the applicable by-laws.
 

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http://www.legalcity.net/Index.cfm?fuseaction=RIGHTS.article&ArticleID=5223104



zenmeister must contact the municipality, get in contact with the city/area planner department (or anyone in a similar position) to take a look at the submitted plans etc. also the applicable by-laws.

Yep. it's quite a grey area. We had a development built behind us at one stage and they insisted that we should pay for half the cost of the boundry wall. Turned around and said go jump, wall was on our property and erected by us, if they chose to build a new wall on their side, that was their prerogative and cost.

It really boils down to what the plans say.
 

Fulcrum29

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Thank you for this information

In the case where your SO's neighbour didn't comply with the city/area planning & building policies, you/she can stop worrying. I don't know your region, but here in the Western Cape it is one thing our municipalities can do good and that is protecting your property by policy. The parties involved in demolishing that wall may all end up in the deep end.
 

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Not to be a devils advocate here but if the wall belonged to your neighbor and is on their side, whether they take it down or not, you don't really have a recourse. Unless it's a shared wall ( actually on the boundary line and straddled ), you should have your own. Yes, personally it's a bit off side to take it down and not erect a temporary but maybe they ran into some difficulty with something.

Sucks about the dogs though :(
+1
 

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To cut a long story short, I seek some advice my SO's neighbour recently demolished her fence in an attempt to rebuild it (about 3 weeks ago) till today nothing has been built, during that time one dog got lost because the one side of SO's house is not fenced and the other dog died last week after escaping through the unfenced part of the house and coming back vomiting until she eventually died. Taking that into consideration is there a way to sue my neighbour or inflict some kind of legal action because of my loss I really loved these dogs.

Was it a case of fence here now and gone a few hours later? Why were the dogs left to their own devices knowing that there wasn't a fence there anymore? And then considering one dog was gone already was there an attempt made at restraining the second dog?
 

I.am.Sam

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Was it a case of fence here now and gone a few hours later? Why were the dogs left to their own devices knowing that there wasn't a fence there anymore? And then considering one dog was gone already was there an attempt made at restraining the second dog?

wtf did i just read from you

sorry for your losses OP
 

Dolby

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My neighbour added something like this without asking ; it's ugly. The wall itself was aleady 6ft or higher and they add this palisade. It's also about 3 x larger than the palisade in the photo.

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