Mars One – the first plan for a human settlement on Mars

[Scooby_Doo]

Well, your ping would be so bad that they would need a new protocol.

I doubt TCP/IP would work with 3 min hop's

There is already a protocol in place.

 

[Unhappy438]

Yes they do.



Maybe not on a global scale yet, but atmosphere production = terraforming.

No atmosphere production does not equal terraforming, "atmosphere production" is actually a bs combination of words. In order to terraform a planet you need to alter its entire atmosphere and climate in order to make it habitable by humans. Im pretty sure whatever they were referring to is supposed to be for inside the habitats. This is colonisation of Mars not terraforming.

 

[psyc]

Next up... Elevator to mars

 

[mercurial]

Next up... Elevator to mars

Already done! (If you follow conspiracy theories) http://www.krschannel.com/Jump-Room-Mars.html

 

[hellfire]

Sounds just like the Mars trilogy (Red, Green Blue) by Kim Stanley Robinson

 

[unskinnybob]

What speed broadband will Mars have?

 

[Geriatrix]

This reminds me of that cold fusions scam company of a few years ago. What happened to them?

 

[chrisc]

The biggest threat to human beings on Mars is not the lack of breathable atmosphere, but radiation. Mars has no liquid iron core and thus no magnetic poles (or Van Allen Belt) like the Earth and cannot defect the solar wind which comes from the sun. Agreed that the radiation levels, as measured in 2004 are only 29% that of earth, the amount of steady radiation exceeds by a wide margin the maximum allowed radiation received from artificial sources on earth. A report from the JPL in 2006 after data had been received from the probe concluded that, if an unprotected man stood on Mars for 22 days, he would receive a lethal amount of radiation.

No amount of terraforming, which in any case will take 10 - 20000 years, will alter this fact, unfortunately

 

[Ockie]

The biggest threat to human beings on Mars is not the lack of breathable atmosphere, but radiation. Mars has no liquid iron core and thus no magnetic poles (or Van Allen Belt) like the Earth and cannot defect the solar wind which comes from the sun. Agreed that the radiation levels, as measured in 2004 are only 29% that of earth, the amount of steady radiation exceeds by a wide margin the maximum allowed radiation received from artificial sources on earth. A report from the JPL in 2006 after data had been received from the probe concluded that, if an unprotected man stood on Mars for 22 days, he would receive a lethal amount of radiation.

No amount of terraforming, which in any case will take 10 - 20000 years, will alter this fact, unfortunately

I think it does...but it has gone ice cold...therefore no spinning and hence no magnetic field. Just drop a few nukes down a volcano and blast that baby back to life

I very much have my doubts about ths project...but if it does come to life...it would be FANTASTIC! Finally....new hunting grounds. Wonder if the Martian men will be hot! And with such cramped living areas...not really a lot of places for them to hide! /Looks at Ellimentals

 

[Elimentals]

I think it does...but it has gone ice cold...therefore no spinning and hence no magnetic field. Just drop a few nukes down a volcano and blast that baby back to life

I very much have my doubts about ths project...but if it does come to life...it would be FANTASTIC! Finally....new hunting grounds. Wonder if the Martian men will be hot! And with such cramped living areas...not really a lot of places for them to hide! /Looks at Ellimentals

Ha, dont need to hide, I'll be the one driving people insane.

 

[thestaggy]

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In the words of Luke Skywalker;

That's impossible!

NASA/the US predict the soonest a (wo)man will be put on Mars will be sometime in the 2030s. . .

And that's just a landing, not colonisation. A little hop, skip and a jump and no more. Okay, maybe a few samples and a round of golf, but that's it.

 

[dualmeister]

It never worked out too well for the last group than went

 

[RiaX]

Lol a human settlement huh. Well they better produce better medication for radiation poisoning :/

 

[dirkieman]

I wonder if warrant officer Ellen Ripley will be part of this crew??
And what happens if one of those MOFO goggas come back to earth?

 

[zippy]

There are 2 ways of sustaining a settlement:
1. There needs to be sufficient resources locally to sustain long term settlement
2. If there aren't sufficient resources locally, then there needs to be a reliable transportation system to keep the settlement supplied.

1. There is no evidence that there are sufficient resources locally on Mars.

2. Transport between Earth and Mars is by no means reliable. It's massively expensive and therefore at the mercy of recessions(which will always occur)

Initially a landing on Mars will take place purely for the science. I can't see them staying longer than supplies will allow which they will need to either take with them or the supplies will be sent ahead(very risky option. Imagine getting there and you find your chow strewn across the Martian ground).

After that they will return. Unlike the moon they won't go back a second or third time until the transportation issue is radically improved.

I can't see a sustained stay on Mars for at least 5 centuries. I'm sure we will see a manned landing within 50 years though.

The only way the private sector will fund these trips us if there is an economic reason to do so. There are only 2 possible reasons :

1. Tourism
2. Off world mining

1. Tourism prices will be prohibitive to make it a viable long term reason.

2. Mars can serve as base for asteroid mining. But we can still get enough resources on Earth now, making mining on Mars or asteroids uncompetitive and economic suicide. But this will probably become the driving force in a few centuries. Tourism will then piggy-back on this.

So other than the once-off "let's go for the lolz/science" we won't do much on Mars other than robotic probes

 

[Scooby_Doo]

Why would you use Mars for asteroid mining?

The/A moon/large asteroid would be a better bet because of the lower gravity.

 

[zippy]

No atmosphere production does not equal terraforming, "atmosphere production" is actually a bs combination of words. In order to terraform a planet you need to alter its entire atmosphere and climate in order to make it habitable by humans. Im pretty sure whatever they were referring to is supposed to be for inside the habitats. This is colonisation of Mars not terraforming.

Yup, the problem with Mars is that there probably isnt enough locked in the ground anyway. As they "manufacture" atmosphere, it will disappear into space.

It's a waste even trying. The solution is to tunnel down and into the mountains and live there. Like moles. Occasionally coming to the surface to do...whatever.. .

Actually sounds to me like the ideal spot for a prison.

Lots of space. Out of sight. Out of mind

 

[chrisc]

Humans on Mars could not live in the open, they will have to live in radiation-shielded enclosures, or underground

Terraforming will take 10 to 20 000 years to complete.
We do not know whether insects will survive. Without insects, there is no possibility of plants surviving
We also do not know if there is sufficient water. Earth is covered with water to 70% yet the amount of fresh water is only just enough

The cost of this exercise is beyond our means

 

[RiaX]

Terraforming is science fiction nonsense. You cant terraform mars because of its low gravity and lack of its magnetic field. The solar storms will destroy what little atmosphere you are able to produce

 

[KleinBoontjie]

1942: Land restitution started. Humans will have the opertunity to give back land to the Martians or it will be forcefully removed.