Mashaba: I'll leave if DA is taken over by Right Wing elements

Fulcrum29

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Drinking the EFF Kool-Aid?

Tweets like these...


He is still serving the city until next month the 27th. Who knows... maybe he turns heel on the EFF. It is a shame to see how the public is behaving on social media, the divide is still 'verbally' strong. The social war is ongoing.

Mashaba should know, this isn't a witch,


in society, we are all equals, constitutionally, ignoring some with special 'legal' privileges. These individuals in disagreement can still resolve their issues at building a Democracy.
 

Fulcrum29

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What makes you think his views on the ANC has changed?

His outlook should be the same in regard to the ANC, but the same context can now be applied to the DA run IRR 'right-wing institution'. You can snip the open letter in sections and replace the ANC with DA and it will speak the same volume as his resignation.

I guess,

As South Africans who have voted for the ANC before, we have to learn that you do not give your vote to any political party for life. A vote is lent to a political party for five years in a contract between that party and that voter. If the party who received that vote does not deliver with that vote, they have broken a contract.

the DA has broken the contract with Mashaba and say he is siding with the EFF, what then,

In my defence, and others like me, I could not have known that I would have contributed to the birth of one of the greatest criminal movements of all time – the ANC of today.

Because with my vote, and many of yours, the ANC has changed from that organisation in which I had placed all my hopes, dreams and aspirations for my country to the criminal enterprise it is today.

?
 

Alan

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Anyway is there anyone who believe you can correct injustices of legalized oppression without using AA?


From Mashaba himself only a few years ago....

Race policies are a sickness


The notion of empowering previously disadvantaged blacks is a noble ideal, noble but racist. Let’s look at why this is so.

To adhere to BEE principles, businesses are compelled to consider the race and social background of potential applicants instead of considering an applicant’s skillset and qualifications. Race is thus a determining factor in securing employment in South Africa. It was unacceptable to have job reservation during apartheid and it is unacceptable now. Affirmative action is not empowering, it is limiting, degrading, and offensive to anyone who wants to participate in the economy but cannot simply because they are not black.
Affirmative action is discriminatory not only against a minority, it also excludes the vast majority of black South Africans from its purported benefits, since BEE has succeeded in creating an economic network of privileged manipulators and cronies.

Additionally, affirmative action has created a skills shortage crisis as many qualified and economically active whites, and sometimes blacks, left the country because of being excluded. Affirmative action serves a few politically connected black elite; it has seen the rise of extensive corruption, but has still left millions of black people, in particular the youths, unemployed and in dire poverty.
Affirmative action creates an illusion job creation and racial integration that doesn’t exist. Instead affirmative action has divided South African society in two, highlighting the divide between the white haves and the black have-nots.

Affirmative action has enhanced the racist perceptions of blacks and whites. Poor blacks are under the illusion that the whites are still the only beneficiaries of business. Whites feel that the tables have turned, and that they are excluded from economic activity based on race.The cost of affirmative action to the poor has been substantial in that it has diverted money from education and infrastructure projects that would have been beneficial, and instead created bloated agencies and departments that don’t contribute to the economy in any meaningful way.

Affirmative action supports racism’s bedfellow, namely tribalism, where favoured politically connected businessmen are able to benefit from government tenders and contracts. It promotes and create an impression that to succeed, you must be first politically connected.
 

MidnightWizard

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Some interesting stuff here

This is a post by a friend of mine on Facebook regarding his views on Mr. Mashaba. He was a property developer that attempted to re-gentrify the inner city and many of the historical buildings to return Johannesburg to the glory days of the 70's and 80's. Instead he was black-balled by Mashaba and Co. and lost millions in US$

For those lamenting Mr Black-like-Me's resignation:

1) As a past property developer the inner city deteriorated to 1984 levels. He blamed the previous regime like all politicians do for his failings. I lost significant income as result of cable theft and rubbish making sidewalks and pavements unwalkable. Tenants lost revenue, generational tenants closed shop.
2) He was an arrogant dipsh*t who threatened the DA, PRIOR to election. They submitted and it went to his head.
3) His sheriff policeman attitude made Johannesburg lose its illustrious global emerging city status and gentrified neighbourhood like Maboneng and new developments in New Doornfontein dissapeared in his tenure.
4) He hired and fired people creating such instability and inability to implement solid policy.
5) He tried to centralise power of utility groups rather than let them do their job tax payers were paying for.
6) A narcissistic piece of work who was drawn to photo opportunities rather than to delivering on the Johannesburg Development Agency mandate.
7) 'His' alienation of property and rollout scheme is a f*ing disaster. Selling subdivided houses in Orange Grove didn't revive the cranes over Johannesburg image
8) He alienated a cosmopolitan city strengthening the position of druglords to revolt and create a warzone. It put the little credibility the police had into disrepute. This was not an orchestrated attempt
9) SEVERAL Heritage assets burnt down and they were left to rot.
10) Mashaba was all hot air and little substance. His populist Trump styled leadership failed the inner city and subsequently as he said- If Johannesburg is not working South Africa is not working. Well congratulations Herman!

Ask tour operators and actual people who worked and lived in the city what his impact was and it paints a different picture. If he wanted to he could have aired his differences with the Federal Council instead of making a tantrum show song and dance two bit pony trick about it. This was a cop-out to his so called allegiance to see a better united working country. I see though you Mashaba. YOU failed Jozi.

Why I'm leaving the DA - Herman Mashaba

Is this sort of like Sodom and Gomorrah -- trying to find ONE good man !
 

krycor

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The DA imploding and being forced to reset was inevitable imo, the classical liberal values are incompatible with many voters and what they believe is required to address the injustices of the past. At least they can focus on their core electorate and make their piece with opposition politics in all other provinces except WC.

Yes and no.. the whole race proxy for disadvantage is an interesting debate. In the interview she is very fast to point out middle class black people out number white but forgets % difference is vastly different.

2ndly I seriously doubt they blindly applied it like that and she openly says this too.. but hey, I guess this as a selling point to black voters scared their VF voters which left them.

Again, last I checked there are a lot more non-white voters and this would not be the 1st time they’ve created such drama.

You saying Mmusi is no going to be the DA leader in 2021?

I suspect if there is no credible explanation.. expect hewvy loses in Wc, Jhb, Pta & Gp. Cpt.. tough one, they might drop below 50% but hold via coalition..

Zille won’t be able to stop it, DAs internal squabbles might destroy it because it’s starting to look like they want to go back to being a minority party who’s only selling point is better management.. (not enough to go beyond Cpt). And then if she stuffs up a single tweet that’s the end of the road too. Keep in mind that if CR does a good clean up job which it’s already slowly looking that way (he has what.. 3more yrs to go when things look rosy) good luck trying the anti-Zuma tactic.

From the outside looking at the last 6-12months, i don’t see them surviving.. she can go dancing all she wants but they still gonna bleed even more votes.

I hope for their sake they have a plan in place else next election is gonna prove very interesting.. CR is gonna be in the thick of things with the ANC with court cases and opposition wanting a return of gravy train. So could end up with DA voters sitting it out.. would not surprise me if the ANC gets 2/3rds and then they kick CR out.
 

MidnightWizard

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People look at media like this -- AND -- come away with a completely FALSE impression

Are we so naive as to think that there are not organizations that -- take the struggle to -- the DIGITAL battlefield ...

BEWARE should you base you prognostications on what you read on the -- INTERNET !
 

Nicodeamus

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If the DA can manage to reflect on their race based stupidity in the last few months then I will continue to vote for them. The last election felt like the party went into the absurdity.

I find it very unfortunate that someone like Mashaba whose political views (prior to him being mayor) aligned more with my own had to become a fall guy. I didn't suspect him to be this corruptible and sensitive to criticism.
 

Nicodeamus

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The Madam has beef with Orania?

That is a ridiculous post from Zille. The FMF went to that event to explore different economic systems in the country. The reports were fascinating as Orania is one of the few places in the country that managed to revive an economy on the country side. You might not have to like them to learn from them.
 

thestaggy

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I see the Twitter k@k is well under way.

Racist degenerates taking swings at the DA and Zille being silly. Just STFU, Zille.
 

jack_spratt

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That is a ridiculous post from Zille. The FMF went to that event to explore different economic systems in the country. The reports were fascinating as Orania is one of the few places in the country that managed to revive an economy on the country side. You might not have to like them to learn from them.
You dont get it

He wants to learn from them, but if they join the DA he will leave?
 

thestaggy

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I would like to thank my coalition partners and the EFF for their dedication to the work of delivering the dignity of change to our residents. I regret more than you will ever know that we will not get to see out this term together.

Very smitten with the champagnes socialists I see.
 

hawker

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Mashaba just messed up in the DA. He really disappointed me and lots a very good opportunity to properly manage Johannesburg.

Yep! The part where he ranted at a citizen for being an apartheid beneficiary when she asked him to fix a sidewalk drain that had been broken for weeks was super strange.
 

ForceFate

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Very smitten with the champagnes socialists I see.
In his defence, I'd say he's not wrong. The EFF were not coalition partners in the strictest sense. I think this is why he wrote "coalition partners and EFF"
 
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