Mashaba: I'll leave if DA is taken over by Right Wing elements

[The Darkness]

I see the Twitter k@k is well under way.

Racist degenerates taking swings at the DA and Zille being silly. Just STFU, Zille.

Every single tweet from Zille is curated and calculated. Just so you know that.

 

[TheChamp]

In his defence, I'd say he's not wrong. The EFF were not coalition partners in the strictest sense. I think this is why he wrote "coalition partners and EFF"

It is the arrogance that he was talking about, how the DA and it's supporters expected him to govern as if the DA won elections.

Why should people be touched when he thanks the EFF?

 

[ForceFate]

It is the arrogance that he was talking about, how the DA and it's supporters expected him to govern as if the DA won elections.

Why should people be touched when he thanks the EFF?

Yep. This.

 

[Sinbad]

It is the arrogance that he was talking about, how the DA and it's supporters expected him to govern as if the DA won elections.

Why should people be touched when he thanks the EFF?

Because it's a bullshit situation that he should be forced to pander to a 10% party merely because they're the kingmaker. Their influence is way out of proportion to their support. It's ridiculous that you can basically dictate policy with such a small proportion of the vote.

 

[ponder]

It is the arrogance that he was talking about, how the DA and it's supporters expected him to govern as if the DA won elections.

Why should people be touched when he thanks the EFF?

When you're a 10% shareholder in a company or anything for that matter you don't get to exert control.

 

[ForceFate]

When you're a 10% shareholder in a company or anything for that matter you don't get to exert control.

Except in this case, DA would not have been able to have a mayor in these metros without EFF. Unfortunate but that's how things turned out. EFF are obviously taking advantage if this.

 

[ForceFate]

Because it's a bullshit situation that he should be forced to pander to a 10% party merely because they're the kingmaker. Their influence is way out of proportion to their support. It's ridiculous that you can basically dictate policy with such a small proportion of the vote.

They're taking advantage of the fact that the DA needs the 10% to manage these metros.

 

[Sinbad]

They're taking advantage of the fact that the DA needs the 10% to manage these metros.

I know. It's a bullshit situation and morally repugnant. Completely undemocratic. Basically, they're blackmailing council.

 

[ISP cash cow]

those words that Herman mentions about "making coalitions work" is what always concerned me about the DA working with the EFF.

Solly got constant calls for votes of no confidence from the EFF because he probably would not back down to the EFF to get some government contracts to allow him to do his job as mayor (in essence very similar to Trollip in Nelson Mandela Bay). The EFF never really went after Herman and in essence used to praise him often, which makes me believe some municipality deals have been handed through EFF hands, to "allow Herman to do his job".

It will be interesting to see what the new Mayor (If not EFF) will uncover.

If this is the case I would rather the DA lose the seat than have to lower the standard of "bargaining deals" to allow them to run the city properly.

 

[TheChamp]

When you're a 10% shareholder in a company or anything for that matter you don't get to exert control.

Of course you don't, you just sit back and wait for those pretending to be majority shareholders to come bow at your feet and beg.

 

[ponder]

Of course you don't, you just sit back and wait for those pretending to be majority shareholders to come bow at your feet and beg.

In this instance a veto is essentially blackmail but the da knew full well who they were getting into bed with as well.

 

[Mrcricket]

My God the 2 aren’t mutually exclusive. You can have good affirmative action and still grow the economy. Not sure if you desire and equal society or not but you can’t correct Apartheid with absolute nonracial policies.

I can’t wait to come here in 2021 to remind everyone that I told you that Mmusi was not the problem

Ironically, a lot of the people who are calling for MM's head are the ones who were praise-singing for him circa 2014-2017.

 

[BBSA]

Ironically, a lot of the people who are calling for MM's head are the ones who were praise-singing for him circa 2014-2017.

The irony is actually that he, a right winger, is resigning because of perceived right wing elements

 

[Verde]

Is this where the Zille DA 2.0 is heading. A separatist party focused on the Western Cape?

OPINIONISTA: Dreaming of a Cape Republic: Secession may promise liberal salvation, but faces high hurdles

Amid growing pessimism about the economic and political prospects of South Africa, liberty-minded people have two options: stay and compromise with a social-democratic or democratic socialist order, or leave. But could they stay – and leave?

www.dailymaverick.co.za

“You will not sell liberalism to black people. Stop trying to,”

Painful though this might be to hear, it is hard to dispute. Supporters of libertarian or classical liberal principles (like me) have good reason to believe it leads to objectively better outcomes for all, including the poor, and holds the moral high ground compared to ideologies that place less value on individual freedom and more trust in governments. However, the electoral record of the Democratic Alliance (DA) shows this kind of thinking has limited appeal to the masses.

“We will never be a liberal democracy again,” he said. “The new compromise will be about pragmatism, and more akin to social democracy.”

He said South Africans could either make peace with the new compromise or leave. “Those of us with open minds will go somewhere else.”

There’s a small but growing movement that wants to stay in South Africa, but secede to form an independent country, however. The idea proved very popular among the assembled libertarians at LibSem, eliciting pockets of applause.

There are compelling reasons to support the notion of a secession of the Western Cape, provided it be governed according to the liberal principles of individual liberty, equal rights and free markets. It is rather less compelling to awkwardly extend the secession area to include Pretoria.

 

[Verde]

ANALYSIS: Mashaba resignation aftermath: Things are gonna get chaotic in big South African cities

The DA may try to somehow hold things together. The ANC’s Gauteng provincial government might try to take Joburg into administration. The DA could well go to court. There could be long periods of no real governance at all.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Are the only options for Gauteng's metros really the chaos emanating from a paralysed minority DA administration or a corruption on steroids ANC/EFF coalition.

The ANC is the largest party in JHB and the DA the largest in Tshwane.
Is there no chance for this Ramaphosa led ANC to come to some sort of agreement with the DA to commit to clean governance with an ANC mayor in JHB and the DA mayor in Tshwane?
Should the interests of the people of Gauteng not come before party politics?

 

[Sinbad]

ANALYSIS: Mashaba resignation aftermath: Things are gonna get chaotic in big South African cities

The DA may try to somehow hold things together. The ANC’s Gauteng provincial government might try to take Joburg into administration. The DA could well go to court. There could be long periods of no real governance at all.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Are the only options for Gauteng's metros really the chaos emanating from a paralysed minority DA administration or a corruption on steroids ANC/EFF coalition.

The ANC is the largest party in JHB and the DA the largest in Tshwane.
Is there no chance for this Ramaphosa led ANC to come to some sort of agreement with the DA to commit to clean governance with an ANC mayor in JHB and the DA mayor in Tshwane?
Should the interests of the people of Gauteng not come before party politics?

vokof. More people voted against the ANC in JHB than for them.

 

[Verde]

vokof. More people voted against the ANC in JHB than for them.

So you prefer the ANC/EFF coalition with 56% of the vote over the ANC/DA with 83%.

 

[Sinbad]

So you prefer the ANC/EFF coalition with 56% of the vote over the ANC/DA with 83%.

No. They're both literally deals with Satan.

 

[ForceFate]

ANALYSIS: Mashaba resignation aftermath: Things are gonna get chaotic in big South African cities

The DA may try to somehow hold things together. The ANC’s Gauteng provincial government might try to take Joburg into administration. The DA could well go to court. There could be long periods of no real governance at all.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Are the only options for Gauteng's metros really the chaos emanating from a paralysed minority DA administration or a corruption on steroids ANC/EFF coalition.

The ANC is the largest party in JHB and the DA the largest in Tshwane.
Is there no chance for this Ramaphosa led ANC to come to some sort of agreement with the DA to commit to clean governance with an ANC mayor in JHB and the DA mayor in Tshwane?
Should the interests of the people of Gauteng not come before party politics?

Ideally, it should be easy. But politicians are eyeing the honey pot so, no.

 

[surface]

Ideally, it should be easy. But politicians are eyeing the honey pot so, no.

I wonder if Mashaba is going to help aunty pat in CR cabinet ? That would be lekker. And perhaps Mmusi as minister of foreign affairs soon?