Matrix Universe / Holographic Universe

[Necuno]

seems both are directly and indirectly dependent on the string and or quantum theory. i would love to see your take on this wacky or not so wacky idea of the matrix/holographic universe

may not be natural sciences not too sure it's PD if we get all scientifically.

 

[jasonchrome]

Wacky ideas Johan.

 

[Necuno]

Wacky ideas Johan.

lol, well if it goes by looks presented on the tube i can concur

 

[Peon]

I read this last night and didnt post. Having a rethink about it later.

The way I see it, are we self-aware?

We think we can reason and are conscious so then we must be self aware. But we know nothing actually. Einstein proposed that maybe the universe is a sphere. Maybe it is.

My point is maybe slightly different to your question on matrix/holographic universe. But I dont think we are self-aware. As it were I think we are still like bodies in a pod with a tube plugged into our noses. Which is also not a bad thing.

Even if the universe is a sphere or a holograph, it still doesnt explain the space its in or around it and how it got there. And until we know that I dont think we are self-aware.

 

[wrathex]

I am self-aware, whether you say so or not, whether I'm quantum entangled or not, I am living cosmic art, unpredictable, unstable and I defy the logic of mathematics, my brain is a quantum portal, and soon I'm going to engage. (ppssst ..so r u)

Cruising.. just cruising.


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Come with me, together we can laugh at the absurdity of life

 

[Nick333]

I read this last night and didnt post. Having a rethink about it later.

The way I see it, are we self-aware?

We think we can reason and are conscious so then we must be self aware. But we know nothing actually. Einstein proposed that maybe the universe is a sphere. Maybe it is.

My point is maybe slightly different to your question on matrix/holographic universe. But I dont think we are self-aware. As it were I think we are still like bodies in a pod with a tube plugged into our noses. Which is also not a bad thing.

Even if the universe is a sphere or a holograph, it still doesnt explain the space its in or around it and how it got there. And until we know that I dont think we are self-aware.

Self-awareness is awareness of self. Not sure what youre on about.

And proving string theory or the nature of reality isn't going to make us any more self-aware because we're all too dumb to understand any of it anyway.

I mean it'll be nice to know that a couple of geniuses have it all figured out especially if there is some practical implications for the knowledge. But its not going to my life any better just knowing that "we" know.

 

[scotty777]

Self-awareness is awareness of self. Not sure what youre on about.

And proving string theory or the nature of reality isn't going to make us any more self-aware because we're all too dumb to understand any of it anyway.

I mean it'll be nice to know that a couple of geniuses have it all figured out especially if there is some practical implications for the knowledge. But its not going to my life any better just knowing that "we" know.

You understand Calculus, something people would have crapped their pants over 1000 years now... It's all part of development, human understanding of their universe using the language of mathematical expression.

Anyway. I dunno... There's many theories that are present... The universe may not actually be a sphere, but could be a rippling 'sheet'. we just don't know .

 

[satanboy]

I am the most important person in my universe and you all exist in my head.

 

[Picard]

I am the most important person in my universe and you all exist in my head.

My name is Goodman Burbank ... but you all knew this already ...

 

[Necuno]

I read this last night and didnt post. Having a rethink about it later.

The way I see it, are we self-aware?

We think we can reason and are conscious so then we must be self aware. But we know nothing actually. Einstein proposed that maybe the universe is a sphere. Maybe it is.

My point is maybe slightly different to your question on matrix/holographic universe. But I dont think we are self-aware. As it were I think we are still like bodies in a pod with a tube plugged into our noses. Which is also not a bad thing.

Even if the universe is a sphere or a holograph, it still doesnt explain the space its in or around it and how it got there. And until we know that I dont think we are self-aware.

i see. so i should at least then check out Einstein's sphere universe theory.

Self-awareness is awareness of self. Not sure what youre on about.

And proving string theory or the nature of reality isn't going to make us any more self-aware because we're all too dumb to understand any of it anyway.

I mean it'll be nice to know that a couple of geniuses have it all figured out especially if there is some practical implications for the knowledge. But its not going to my life any better just knowing that "we" know.

that is your point of view/understanding then relating to the universe being a hologram or matrix so to speak. i suppose it comes down to saying that everything is an illusion

 

[Nick333]

that is your point of view/understanding then relating to the universe being a hologram or matrix so to speak. i suppose it comes down to saying that everything is an illusion [o/QUOTE]

Everything is clearly an illusion. The amount of matter in the universe is minuscule in comparison to what appears to exist and what does seem to exist isnt very substantial when really looked at.

Particles can be waves sometimes and vice versa. Time is relative and the Earth is round.

What I'm saying is that what's more important is how we relate to the illusion rather than the nature of the illusion. I doubt we exist independently of the illusion.

I don't think human happiness will be enhanced by us understanding the illusion. Even if we could which I doubt.

How many people can imagine four dimensional space for instance? How much does having even some rough idea of what it means affect your contenment?

 

[NoLogic001]

WTF are you people on about? I thought this thread was regarding Leonard Susskind theory that information in a black hole turned two dimensional and that reality could possible be an holograph. A attempt to disprove Stephen Hawking theory that information get lost in a black hole?

Or is this really just reference to the move "The Matrix" ?

 

[wrathex]

that is your point of view/understanding then relating to the universe being a hologram or matrix so to speak. i suppose it comes down to saying that everything is an illusion [o/QUOTE]

Everything is clearly an illusion. The amount of matter in the universe is minuscule in comparison to what appears to exist and what does seem to exist isnt very substantial when really looked at.

Particles can be waves sometimes and vice versa. Time is relative and the Earth is round.

What I'm saying is that what's more important is how we relate to the illusion rather than the nature of the illusion. I doubt we exist independently of the illusion.

I don't think human happiness will be enhanced by us understanding the illusion. Even if we could which I doubt.

How many people can imagine four dimensional space for instance? How much does having even some rough idea of what it means affect your contenment?

It does impact contentment, because some individuals are very curious, and satisfying that curiosity adds to contentment.

Would existing in the 4th dimension mean I would experience something akin to an out of body experience, in other words, stepping beyond 3d and into the 4th, I would be able to see myself, as in 'third person' view instead of 'first person' view in gaming, only I would be able to see everything instantly.
(however, if I am not mistaken our current physiological optics (our eyes) allows only for 3d viewing - but through the use of optical technology, we could see in the 4th dimension eg holographic optics.)

 

[NoLogic001]

the fourth dimension is TIME, actually.
damnit

 

[wrathex]

the fourth dimension is TIME, actually.
damnit

Yes, TIME, that incredibly difficult concept to understand - just another form of measurement.
(measuring where and when in spacetime we are)
(my post - if the 4th is not time)

 

[homeboy]

Even if the universe is a sphere or a holograph, it still doesnt explain the space its in or around it and how it got there. And until we know that I dont think we are self-aware.

i like it never thought about it in this way. makes you think. personally i think everything aorund us is holographic. our higher self/soul is self aware. we are spirit having a human experience.

 

[Necuno]

i like it never thought about it in this way. makes you think. personally i think everything aorund us is holographic. our higher self/soul is self aware. we are spirit having a human experience.

how does the holographic universe fit in with the parallel universes ?

 

[Peon]

It does impact contentment, because some individuals are very curious, and satisfying that curiosity adds to contentment.

This is my point from another angle. But I think its different to what the topic is about.

Proph's comment: The one must fit in the other.