Medieval Diseases Are Infecting California’s Homeless

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Jennifer Millar keeps trash bags and hand sanitizer near her tent, and she regularly pours water mixed with hydrogen peroxide on the sidewalk nearby. Keeping herself and the patch of concrete she calls home clean is a top priority.

But this homeless encampment off a Hollywood freeway ramp is often littered with needles and trash and soaked in urine. Rats occasionally scamper through, and Millar fears the consequences. “I worry about all those diseases,” said Millar, 43, who has been homeless most of her life. Infectious diseases—some that ravaged populations in the Middle Ages—are resurging in California and around the country, and are hitting homeless populations especially hard.

Los Angeles recently experienced an outbreak of typhus—a disease spread by infected fleas on rats and other animals—in downtown streets. Officials briefly closed part of City Hall after reporting that rodents had invaded the building.
People in Washington State have been infected with Shigella bacteria, which is spread through feces and causes the diarrheal disease shigellosis, as well as Bartonella quintana, or trench fever, which spreads through body lice.*

Hepatitis A, also spread primarily through feces, infected more than 1,000 people in Southern California in the past two years. The disease also has eruptedin New Mexico, Ohio, and Kentucky, primarily among people who are homeless or use drugs.
Public-health officials and politicians are using terms like disaster and public-health crisis to describe the outbreaks, and they are warning that these diseases can easily jump beyond the homeless population.

 

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Close the borders and get immigrants out. That should solve the issue they are facing in California. America is over populated and cannot manage the increase in people there.
 

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Close the borders and get immigrants out. That should solve the issue they are facing in California. America is over populated and cannot manage the increase in people there.

The homeless crises is not necessarily linked to illegal immigration. I don't disagree that the borders should be closed. But, the homeless crisis in the USA is fueled by drug addiction, and mental illness.
 

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The homeless crises is not necessarily linked to illegal immigration. I don't disagree that the borders should be closed. But, the homeless crisis in the USA is fueled by drug addiction, and mental illness.

I do agree with you that it is not only immigrants. I have been in California recently. I have seen the issue the media was showing first hand. Literally all homeless people I saw were immigrants, not saying all illegal, but they were mainly central American and Mexicans living out on the streets. It looks like a disaster area out there.
 

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Murica is in a probably irreversible phase of it's decadent decent into chaos, it's falling apart slowly and the upper classes are willfully blind to it while becoming more and more radically leftist.... "it never worked before so lets do even more of it and feel great about ourselves"

SA is wierdly the trailer for the movie that is murica :ROFL:
 

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The homeless crises is not necessarily linked to illegal immigration. I don't disagree that the borders should be closed. But, the homeless crisis in the USA is fueled by drug addiction, and mental illness.

Nope it's ideology and the resulting policies.

California is home to some of the world’s toughest environmental and public health laws, but skyrocketing homelessness has created an environmental and public health disaster. The 44,000 people living, eating, and defecating on the streets of L.A. have brought rats and medieval diseases including typhus. Garbage is everywhere. Experts fear the return of cholera and leprosy.

And homelessness is making people violent. “We are seeing behaviors from our guests that I’ve never seen in 33 years,” said Bales. “They are so bizarre and different that I don’t even feel right describing the behaviors. It’s extreme violence of an extreme sexual nature. I have been doing this for 33 years and never seen anything like it.”
How did things get so bad in California? The state has long prided itself on being humanistic and innovative. It is home to some of the world’s largest public health philanthropies, best hospitals, and most progressive policies on mental health and drug addiction. The Democrats have a supermajority. What went wrong?


According to Bales and other experts, California made homelessness worse by making perfect housing the enemy of good housing, by liberalizing drug laws, and by opposing mandatory treatment for mental illness and drug addiction.

Other states have done a better job despite spending less money. “This isn’t rocket science,” said John Snook, who runs the Treatment Advocacy Center, which advises states on mental health and homelessness policy around the country. “Arizona is a red state that doesn’t spend a ton on its services but is the best scenario in every aspect. World-class coordination with law enforcement. Strong oversight. They don’t let people fall apart and then return to jail in 30 days like California does.”

What happened in California isn’t the first time that we progressives let our idealism get the better of us. To understand how the current disaster unfolded, we have to go back in time, back to the post-World War II era when progressive reformers convinced themselves and others that they could destroy the country’s system for dealing with the mentally ill and replace it with a radically different and wholly unproven alternative.

 

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What about those empty spots known as the Dakotas and Wyoming?

There is no resources or financial assistance to cater for anyone wanting to make a living there. Those areas are taboo. Besides, you do realize that the biggest part of America is actually third world, right? In many small towns people live off the grid, generating their own electricity or making use of outhouses for sewage, etc.
 

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The homeless crises is not necessarily linked to illegal immigration. I don't disagree that the borders should be closed. But, the homeless crisis in the USA is fueled by drug addiction, and mental illness.

And you dont think that maybe actually being homeless fuels both mental illness and drug addiction ?
Its vicious cycle.
 

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And you dont think that maybe actually being homeless fuels both mental illness and drug addiction ?
Its vicious cycle.
Many people in first world countries end up homeless because they don't conform to the "factory normal" standards demanded by society. When you are not conforming you get given pills and if the pills don't work you are permanently defective..... no thought is spared for the possibility that the system itself is probably the actual flaw.
 

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Medieval diseases my @rs3

TB is the 9th leading cause of deaths in the world (granted that most of those deaths come from third world countries), but it means it is still prevalent today.

Typhus is also still around today and is also down to where it is mostly found in third world countries due to poor sanitary and hygiene standards.

So surprise surprise, these "third world diseases" are finding their way into homeless camps where poor sanitation and hygiene are prone to be.

:cautious:
 

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Many people in first world countries end up homeless because they don't conform to the "factory normal" standards demanded by society. When you are not conforming you get given pills and if the pills don't work you are permanently defective..... no thought is spared for the possibility that the system itself is probably the actual flaw.

:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
 

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Many people in first world countries end up homeless because they don't conform to the "factory normal" standards demanded by society. When you are not conforming you get given pills and if the pills don't work you are permanently defective..... no thought is spared for the possibility that the system itself is probably the actual flaw.

Exactly !
Many people also land up on the streets in California due to rising costs.

Begin with the falsehood that most homeless people come from out of town, drifting here from colder climates or meaner streets in order to live a life of relative ease on L.A. sidewalks and freeway medians.

Not true. The official counts and companion studies of L.A.’s growing homeless population have consistently shown that most homeless people have lived in Los Angeles for at least 10 years. These are our longtime neighbors who were priced out of their apartments by rents that are rising faster than their incomes, or who were struck by some crisis that rendered them unable to keep a permanent roof over their heads. It may have been a job layoff, a divorce, a cataclysmic and costly health breakdown, an addiction.
 

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It amazes me that people still think in 2nd (or 1st when it comes to the rich elitist snobs) industrial revolution terms. Even though the 4th rev reality is questionable at a bare minimum we are still in the 3rd. No one is setting up alternative structures and the superiority of the old one's are assumed.

People are not robots and the job market is in chaos, you cannot just pump obedient workers out of factory schools and half the time what people study directly after school is utterly useless to them in real life.

In SA it's even worse because every time the ANC tampers with something they break it, though credit where it is due they at least try to modernize even if only at face value.
 

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Many people in first world countries end up homeless because they don't conform to the "factory normal" standards demanded by society. When you are not conforming you get given pills and if the pills don't work you are permanently defective..... no thought is spared for the possibility that the system itself is probably the actual flaw.
It amazes me that people still think in 2nd (or 1st when it comes to the rich elitist snobs) industrial revolution terms. Even though the 4th rev reality is questionable at a bare minimum we are still in the 3rd. No one is setting up alternative structures and the superiority of the old one's are assumed.

People are not robots and the job market is in chaos, you cannot just pump obedient workers out of factory schools and half the time what people study directly after school is utterly useless to them in real life.

In SA it's even worse because every time the ANC tampers with something they break it, though credit where it is due they at least try to modernize even if only at face value.


OK I am going to bite, What is it that you mean by homeless people are homeless in first world countries because they don't conform to factory normal standards?

what pills are you talking about? are you talking figuratively?
 

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OK I am going to bite, What is it that you mean by homeless people are homeless in first world countries because they don't conform to factory normal standards?

what pills are you talking about? are you talking figuratively?
If you don't believe what those in positions of social authority believe or if you act in ways they disapprove of they attempt to either indoctrinate or medicate your abbrance away.

The earliest is probably primary school where children are over-diagnosed as ADHD (both girls and boys but mostly boys) positive which inevitably leads to anti-depressants (and sometimes but relatively rare psychotic breaks) at some stage which emotionally breaks the subjects as well as halting their proper development in some ways... the link is apparently a dirty little secret.

This happens because instead of treating children as autonomous individuals they are treated like blank slates and the system cannot tolerate defective slates at all, it's just not set up in a way that makes it possible. Also there is the problem that schooling is essentially set up more for girls than boys but the two sexes mature completely differently.

ADHD uppers and anti-depressent downers in combination never ends well especially on a still developing brain

Another problem is PTSD over-medication, remember how a few decades ago police randomly started suiciding their families? At about the same time mental health medication became mandatory in some cases as I recall.
 

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How about that... massive wave of homeless immigrants getting sick because there are no jobs for them.
 
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