Medieval Diseases Are Infecting California’s Homeless

[BBSA]

Top causes (of homelessness) are apparently,
FAMILIES:
(1) lack of affordable housing*
(2) unemployment
(3) poverty
(4) low wages

SINGLE ADULT INDIVIDUALS:
(1) lack of affordable housing*
(2) unemployment
(3) poverty
(4) mental illness and the lack of needed services
(5) substance abuse and the lack of needed services

Those are symptoms not causes.

 

[Polymathic]

 

[R13...]

Those are symptoms not causes.

You have a strange way of defining symptoms vs causes. Some of them might be symptoms of other things but not homelessness.

 

[Arthur]

Just two weeks ago City Journal (one of America's best journals, btw) published this devastating report on San Francisco's failures, all driven by loopy lefty politics.

San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless
Failure to enforce basic standards of public behavior has made one of America’s great cities increasingly unlivable.

...For the last three decades, San Francisco has conducted a real-life experiment in what happens when a society stops enforcing bourgeois norms of behavior. The city has done so in the name of compassion toward the homeless. The results have been the opposite: street squalor and misery have increased, even as government expenditures have ballooned. Yet the principles that have guided the city’s homelessness policy remain inviolate: homelessness is a housing problem; it is involuntary; and its persistence is the result of inadequate public spending. These propositions are readily disproved by talking to people living on the streets.

 

[My_King]

I thought Trump was fixing America.

Its not that simple, everything he says and does the left is against him, even some turds world wide are against everything he does. He could cure cancer and idiots will call "Orange man bad"....IMPEACH

 

[Polymathic]

 

[BBSA]

You have a strange way of defining symptoms vs causes. Some of them might be symptoms of other things but not homelessness.

Loopy lefty politics is the cause, see @Arthur's post.

 

[R13...]

Loopy lefty politics is the cause, see @Arthur's post.

Which is mainly nonsense. How do loopy left wing politics cause lack of affordable housing? Or low wages? etc. I thought left wing was supposed to be all about socialism and ****, then how is it that they're doing the opposite of good socialists?

As someone said above, the only symptom in there is likely drug abuse which can potentially be leading to the mental health issues. Those would be symptoms of hopelessness which lead to depression and the need to find an escape by numbing themselves with drugs.

 

[SoldierMan]

I thought Trump was fixing America.

More and more Democrat controlled areas are turning into sh!tholes.

 

[rambo919]

Which is mainly nonsense. How do loopy left wing politics cause lack of affordable housing? Or low wages? etc. I thought left wing was supposed to be all about socialism and ****, then how is it that they're doing the opposite of good socialists?

As someone said above, the only symptom in there is likely drug abuse which can potentially be leading to the mental health issues. Those would be symptoms of hopelessness which lead to depression and the need to find an escape by numbing themselves with drugs.

Basic economics, if you want to have a shortage of anything put a fixed price on it.

 

[Arthur]

Which is mainly nonsense. How do loopy left wing politics cause lack of affordable housing? Or low wages? etc. I thought left wing was supposed to be all about socialism and ****, then how is it that they're doing the opposite of good socialists?

As someone said above, the only symptom in there is likely drug abuse which can potentially be leading to the mental health issues. Those would be symptoms of hopelessness which lead to depression and the need to find an escape by numbing themselves with drugs.

Read the piece above. There are so many choice examples and quotes it's hard to pick out one - the entire piece is worth a read. The bottom line is that SF has a double standard for what constitutes acceptable behaviour. City Journal is probably the country's leading journal on urban affairs.

"Elevating the alleged rights of the homeless over those of the working public has cost billions in government outlays, with nothing to show for it. Mayors have come and gone; agencies have been renamed, task forces convened, ten-year plans rolled out, and section chiefs, liaison officers, and operations-support teams added to existing bureaucracies and seeded into new ones, while the “unsheltered” count continues to rise—up 17 percent from 2017 to 2019 alone, to 8,011. San Francisco continues to puzzle over the reason. Is it lack of city-created affordable housing, as the advocates and politicians maintain? No other American city has built as much affordable housing per capita, according to the Bay Area Council Economic Institute..."

"San Francisco is not going to solve its street squalor unless it commits to a foundational principle: street living is not allowed, period. Set up camp, conduct your bodily functions in public, litter, loiter, use and sell drugs—all these illegal behaviors will result in a law-enforcement response, if only just moving someone along. "

"The stories that the homeless tell about their lives reveal that something far more complex than a housing shortage is at work. The tales veer from one confused and improbable situation to the next, against a backdrop of drug use, petty crime, and chaotic child-rearing. Behind this chaos lies the dissolution of those traditional social structures that once gave individuals across the economic spectrum the ability to withstand setbacks and lead sober, self-disciplined lives: marriage, parents who know how to parent, and conventional life scripts that create purpose and meaning. There are few policy levers to change this crisis of meaning in American culture. What is certain is that the ongoing crusade to normalize drug use, along with the absence of any public encouragement of temperance, will further handicap this unmoored population."

 

[Polymathic]

Which is mainly nonsense. How do loopy left wing politics cause lack of affordable housing? Or low wages? etc. I thought left wing was supposed to be all about socialism and ****, then how is it that they're doing the opposite of good socialists?

As someone said above, the only symptom in there is likely drug abuse which can potentially be leading to the mental health issues. Those would be symptoms of hopelessness which lead to depression and the need to find an escape by numbing themselves with drugs.

Politicians being bought off by tech companies. And being a deeply blue state these politicians are not at risk to losing to Republicans. They are basically a similar situation the ANC has here

 

[GotToLuveIT]

I thought Trump was fixing America.

Try again snowflake, the state is control by your wonderful woolly democrats.

 

[R13...]

Politicians being bought off by tech companies. And being a deeply blue state these politicians are not at risk to losing to Republicans. They are basically a similar situation the ANC has here

I doubt GOP politicians would do anything different with regards to pandering to money. If anything they'll likely be worse. I suppose the difference might that they could go medieval on the homeless' asses.

 

[R13...]

Read the piece above. There are so many choice examples and quotes it's hard to pick out one - the entire piece is worth a read. The bottom line is that SF has a double standard for what constitutes acceptable behaviour. City Journal is probably the country's leading journal on urban affairs.

"Elevating the alleged rights of the homeless over those of the working public has cost billions in government outlays, with nothing to show for it. Mayors have come and gone; agencies have been renamed, task forces convened, ten-year plans rolled out, and section chiefs, liaison officers, and operations-support teams added to existing bureaucracies and seeded into new ones, while the “unsheltered” count continues to rise—up 17 percent from 2017 to 2019 alone, to 8,011. San Francisco continues to puzzle over the reason. Is it lack of city-created affordable housing, as the advocates and politicians maintain? No other American city has built as much affordable housing per capita, according to the Bay Area Council Economic Institute..."

"San Francisco is not going to solve its street squalor unless it commits to a foundational principle: street living is not allowed, period. Set up camp, conduct your bodily functions in public, litter, loiter, use and sell drugs—all these illegal behaviors will result in a law-enforcement response, if only just moving someone along. "

"The stories that the homeless tell about their lives reveal that something far more complex than a housing shortage is at work. The tales veer from one confused and improbable situation to the next, against a backdrop of drug use, petty crime, and chaotic child-rearing. Behind this chaos lies the dissolution of those traditional social structures that once gave individuals across the economic spectrum the ability to withstand setbacks and lead sober, self-disciplined lives: marriage, parents who know how to parent, and conventional life scripts that create purpose and meaning. There are few policy levers to change this crisis of meaning in American culture. What is certain is that the ongoing crusade to normalize drug use, along with the absence of any public encouragement of temperance, will further handicap this unmoored population."

So, in short the article blames authorities allowing lawlessness and not taking a tough stance against behavior. As BBSA says, that is a symptom not a cause. Sweeping the homeless under the carpet doesn't make them or the underlying causes of the problems go away.

 

[Alan]

Basic economics, if you want to have a shortage of anything put a fixed price on it.

Indeed.

California home builders are pulling back, deflating hopes for housing relief

Home builders are pulling back from new construction, the opposite of what economists say is needed to ease California’s housing affordability crisis.

At the same time, construction costs are high and, by some measures, still rising. For new projects, builders said, there’s a limit to how low they can set prices or rents to stoke demand.

Builders cited the high costs for land, labor, materials and government fees, as well as tariffs on myriad building products and appliances. Over the last year, they said, the potential profit on many new projects has shrunk to the point at which it doesn’t make sense for builders or their financiers to take the risk.

“You can’t wish yourself into high rents and make a project feasible,” said Kevin Farrell, chief operating officer at apartment developer Century West Partners.

“No one is interested in doing loans to lose money,” said Scott Laurie, chief executive of Olson Co., which builds single-family and town homes throughout Southern California.

California home builders are pulling back, deflating hopes for housing relief

Construction is slowing across California as the housing market softens.

www.latimes.com

 

[Unhappy438]

Which is mainly nonsense. How do loopy left wing politics cause lack of affordable housing? Or low wages? etc. I thought left wing was supposed to be all about socialism and ****, then how is it that they're doing the opposite of good socialists?

As someone said above, the only symptom in there is likely drug abuse which can potentially be leading to the mental health issues. Those would be symptoms of hopelessness which lead to depression and the need to find an escape by numbing themselves with drugs.

Sush libtard, have you never heard of the perfect republican wakanda state of Alabama or Mississippi?

 

[BBSA]

Sush libtard, have you never heard of the perfect republican wakanda state of Alabama or Mississippi?

 

[rambo919]

True but you can't compare whataboutism to actually valid whatabouts, the one is an argument style where apples are compared to oranges and the other is countering with equal facts where apples are compared with apples.

 

[Unhappy438]

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Ooh sick, a new one.

The point has flown over your head though, homelessness is an American issue, not inherently a left or right wing one.

Since you like to use these pictures so often let me educate you on how the term actually works. It would only be "whataboutism" if i was excusing the homelessness in California, im not.